Re: [libreoffice-users] Bullet indent frustrations

At 10:33 08/10/2011 +0100, Aonly Gonly wrote:
> I do have one bone of contention where I do think that MS Office is 
> superior to LibO Writer though, and that is in MS Office's 
> formatting of bullets.  In MSO, when one inserts bullets and they 
> appear too far away from the border of a table, one merely needs to 
> right click on the bullet and select "reduce indent" (or increase 
> for the alternative option of moving the bullet further from the table border).

Whilst the experts are arguing, may I attempt some assistance?  ;^)

You need to open the Bullets and Numbering dialogue.  You can get to 
this at right-click | Numbering/Bullets... or at Format | Bullets and 
Numbering... or through the button at the right of the Bullets and 
Numbering toolbar.  (I see you mention tables.  When the cursor is in 
a table cell, the context menu does not appear to include 
"Numbering/Bullets...", so you will have to use one of the two other 
routes.)  In this dialogue, select the Position tab.  To modify the 
indenting of your bullets, simply change the value for "Aligned at".

> I'm obviously very bad at doing so correctly however, because the 
> effect I achieve is variable, and inevitably ends up with the rest 
> of the text hanging off at indentations that I don't want.

By default, I think any text will not have hanging indents, but these 
may well appear if you have modified the alignment as above.  But you 
can simply correct the indentation by modifying the "Indent at" value 
on the Position tab.  If you want no further indents, you probably 
want the "Indent at" value to match the tab stop position under 
"Numbering followed by".

> Is there a simple way that I can align/ indent bullets so that they 
> are flush against the border of a table and not spend fruitless 
> amounts of time trying to figure this out from scratch each time?

Yes: set the "Aligned at" value to zero.

> Additionally, the alignment for numbering is messy especially when 
> using Roman numerals (i), (ii) because by the time one gets to 
> (iii), the text now appears significantly indented from the brackets 
> of the (iii) and just looks ridiculous.

The text is aligned by default at a tab stop, and the default 
position for this is too close to for your "(iii)" to fit in - so the 
text is moved to the next tab stop (probably one of the regularly 
spaced default tab stops).  To remedy this, increase the value for 
the tab stop position under "Numbering followed by".

> Any straightforward suggestions on how to fix this without the 
> requirement for me to become some kind of text formatting guru?

I suggest you spend a few minutes experimenting with values on the 
Position tab; then you might become a guru!

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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