Re: [libreoffice-users] help package installation failure

Hi :)
And part-time (paid) and full-time (volunteers) or a combination of partly paid 
and partly volunteer work either (or both) of which might be full or part-time.

There is often an assumption that paid people work at a particular task 
full-time but even a full-time worker might have many different duties.  Also 
"full time" in my country used to mean about 40-45 hours/week, perhaps more in 
certain types of work a decade or few ago.  Nowadays it means about 30hours/week 
but many people still work in excess of 60-70 hours per week, especially 
self-employed people.  I also know many volunteers that put in about 60 hours 
per week through love of the project or in a "save the world" type of 
fanaticism.  It is easy to be disparaging about volunteer work especially if you 
have only seen the "slap a bit of paint on the community shack and have a beer" 
type of thing as shown on tele and promoted by the media who would like to 
perpetuate the myth rather than really examine the truth.  It's a bit like 
racism or something where people see one or 2 examples on the street but fail to 
realise that they are not seeing what is going-on off-street.

I'm not saying that Cor meant to fall into this trap, on the contrary he appears 
to have been trying to congratulate everyone on working hard and/or smart and 
achieving an excellent result.  


Regards from
Tom :)





----- Original Message ----
> From: Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 23:57:35
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] help package installation failure
>
> Tanstaafl wrote (10-06-11 17:26)
> > On 2011-06-10 11:17 AM, Cor Nouws  wrote:
> > > Tanstaafl wrote (10-06-11 16:54)
> > >
> > > >  If you go back and read the archives, you will plainly see that the  only
> > > > reason given for the single download was because of limited  disk space,
> > >
> > > Are you really sure? I though build time,  so plain CPU power&  energy,
> > > were an issue too. But I might  be wrong (could ask devs of course..)
> >
> > I'm sure, because I  participated in the discussion...
>
> What I see now is :
>
> Subject: Re:  [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1
> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:10:47 +0000
> From:  Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@novell.com>
> [...]
>      One of the benefits of the combined installer is that we do not require
> many  gigabytes of duplicated pointlessness on -every- mirror site: as we
> duplicate  all of the code again and again and again for windows, 90%+ of
> which is  identical, but each time with ~10Mb of translation / help :-)
> That is a  nightare to build, copy, sign, up-load and manage.
> [...]
>
> I see 3.4.0  for Windows is 188 MB now. Do you remember how much it was in 
> December .. 440  MB.
>   Wow, great work from all the devs, full time (paid) and part time  
> volunteers, that helped with this!
>
> But on the other hand, and I guess  that's what the discussion started with, 
> having to do a separate download for  the help, if you want it local, is not so  
> convenient.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> --  - Cor
>  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
>
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