Re: [libreoffice-users] help package installation failure

On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 12:07 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:

> Thank you Marc for saying that [below].
>
> The last time I had to rebuild a Windows computer, I had to spend 12+ 
> hours installing all 200+ updates that was needed to get the OS up-to-date.
>
> Yes, not any software works 100% the first time you use it.  It takes 
> work to fix anything you did not think of.  Each person and system will 
> find things that were not working properly on their systems BUT was 
> working properly on the testing system.  It is much easier to write a 
> package that would be used on one system by a limited user base.  That 
> one system was what Mac did for all those years.  Windows users and 
> Linux users have used so many different hardware combinations, well 
> things do not work well on every one.  The same for users.  We each have 
> different needs and use the software differently.  We may find an error 
> that would never be found by a tester since that person did not try the 
> way you, me, or others, decide to use the software.
>
> LO works well for me.  It works well for others.  Yes there are problems 
> being worked on.  Yes sometimes there are issues that can be 
> frustrating.  It was the same for me with office software before MS 
> Office 95 came into being.  It was the same with MSO 97, 200, 2003.  It 
> was the same with OpenOffice.org.  It is the same with LO.  I find that 
> LO works better for me than any other office package that I have access 
> to.  The package is free.  The people who are developing the code and 
> fixing the bugs do not get paid for their work.  They freely donate 
> their time and skill doing things others would demand big money for.
>
> Nothing is perfect.  But LO is free and it works well.
>
> 3.3.x works well and is stable.
> 3.4.0 is for those who want to try the "cutting edge" version of the 
> software.
>
> I say thanks to everyone who have worked on making LO the best package 
> it can be.
>
> If someone has any problems with this, well remember this email list is 
> for solutions to problems and not ranting and raving on how bad you feel 
> it is.


    +1 Good point about testers not always trying my specific
combination of hardware and usage needs
    On the Windows side I have 3.4.0 and have not run into any show
stoppers. On the Linux side 3.3.2 and again no show stoppers.

> On 06/09/2011 10:04 AM, Marc D. Demers wrote:
> > It's true that the French help package does not work but the English one run perfectly. Those 
> > kind of problems are frequents with a free and open source software. The 3.4 version has some 
> > glitches but the 3.3.2 is very stable and has sufficents futures for the average user.
> >
> > Your infantile complaint remember me of some posts on others forums where users think that 
> > everything run perfectly out of the box. No program can give you this guarantee. Just think of 
> > all the update you install with any system (Windows, OSX, Linux, etc.) free or commercial. So, 
> > stop complaint and/or leave this forum.
> >
> > Marc Demers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:06:02 -0400
> > > From: davidbteague@comporium.net
> > > To: users@libreoffice.org
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] help package installation failure
> > >
> > > On 6/9/2011 7:28 AM, Brian Gillespie wrote:
> > > > My advice to you is to look for another program! This suite is full of problems
> > > > and no where to find solutions. The more you look for solutions, the more you
> > > > receive these idiotic e-mails from other users which don't help- just load up
> > > > you mail. Delete the whole thing and look for another!
> > > I don't know what you are doing with LO that you find it  so bad.  I
> > > have used FREE OO.o since 1.1 and I use FREE LO 3.2 now. I have had only
> > > joy in using it.   And joy in not having to give MS large sums of money.
> > >
> > > The help I have gotten from OO.o help and the help from the folks here
> > > is of better quality than the so called help I got from MS help package
> > > (only easy questions answered there) or from official and unofficial MS
> > > help sites.
> > >
> > > That said, if you don't like OO.o or LO, you should pay Microsoft their
> > > (exorbitant) fee for Office, which incidentally is not free of problems
> > > either. Please stop complaining about a free package that works well,
> > > has great help, and marvelous FREE mailing list for questions. And a few
> > > bugs.
> > >
> > > All that is required is that you understand that we are all volunteers.
> > > Volunteers write and maintain the code and distribute it for FREE, and
> > > volunteers provide FREE support for this FREE package.
> > >
> > > And you must understand that no software is bug free.
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone who helps write, debug, distribute and support
> > > LibreOffice and who did the same for OO.o!
> > >
> > > David Teague
> > > Appreciative, long time user of OO.o and now user of LO
> > >
> > > <SNIP inquiry about why help isn't installed automatically>
> > > -- 
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> > >
> > >
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