Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: changes for this mailing list

On 05/26/2011 12:25 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello Dennis,
>
> Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on 2011-05-26 18.20:
> > And who is this capital-C "Community" of which you speak?  (I was 
> > teasing about  founders.libreoffice.org, but not 
> > members.libreoffice.org.)  What was done to engage all effected parties?
>
> the Community is all of us, the people engaging on the lists, 
> contributing. We received many requests like "can I have a 
> @libreoffic.org address like it was at OpenOffice.org", and during one 
> of the public calls, the steering committee agreed in doing so, help 
> people identify with the project. The limitation to members -- anyone 
> active can apply as a member -- is solely because of bad experiences 
> we had at OpenOffice.org, where people simply could register an 
> @openoffice.org address and pretend they speak on behalf of the 
> project. We ran into problems indeed with that.
>
> We discussed on the public lists and in the public calls -- it cannot 
> be more public and transparent, anyone had a chance to join. In fact, 
> the discussion has been running since February or even earlier, so 
> there was plenty of time.
>
> > But why is the change not made a slight change, if any, for those who 
> > are the beneficiaries of the change, rather than those who are not?
>
> Because it is technically not possible. We want to issue 
> @libreoffice.org addresses, and by doing so, we cannot have mailing 
> lists on the same addresses. I also proposed to instead use 
> @libreoffice.net for the mail forwarders, but nobody agreed to that. 
> This, again, on the public list where anyone could discuss.
>
> And, honestly, it's no bigger change than if one contact of yours has 
> a new e-mail address. You change it in the address book, and that's it.
>
> Florian

For me, the idea of
    @global.libreoffice.org       --> world
    @us.libreoffice.org             --> USA
    @canada.libreoffice.org      --> Canada
can be useful in the lists and other regional work.

so
marketing@global.libreoffice.org would be the general marketing that is 
not keyed to one specific region.

marketing@us.libreoffice.org would be for the US region list, but it 
also includes Canadian interest as well - hopefully.

marketing@french.libreoffice.org could be for a French language 
marketing list - I do not know if this a list or not.

marketing@france.libreoffice.org for the country

marketing@canada.libreoffice.org

marketing@mexico.libreoffice.org

etc., etc., etc.

This is a good thing to have, thought you have to produce a lot of 
sub-domain work to get it all working correctly.
Then you will have to have people assigning sub-domain names to the 
groups that need those names, so a Brazilian group does not get all of 
South America, and a different group does not take over the sub-domain 
that the Brazilian group needs.

The NA community project included member from the US and Canada, but we 
hope to get some Mexican involvement.
So we could have the @north-america.libreoffice.org sub-domain, or some 
other one that states we are represent the North American region of the 
country.

Now who gets to have an email address off from the domain or sub-domain, 
I am not qualified to decide.  For me, if they are not part of the 
steering committee or any other governing group, I do not think they 
should have one of the @libreoffice.org email addresses, or maybe even 
@sometext.libreoffice.org.  But I am not a part of any governing group 
or committee for LibreOffice, so I do not have a say in this. There 
should be clear-cut rules on assigning email addresses, and hopefully 
there are some already in place.

I "bought" libreoffice-na.us as a domain to be a place for a DVD testing 
portal, and I could make as many email addresses as I want, or my host 
provider will allow.  But I do not tell people I am the "voice of" 
LibreOffice, but I am part of the North American Community DVD Project 
that is promoting LibreOffice within our community.  If you have email 
addresses off from the same domain as LibreOffice is located, like 
@libreoffice.org or documentfoundation.org, then you may have people 
thing these people represent the LibreOffice and will take their words 
as "fact".  That is the problem with giving email addresses to 
"employees" using the company's domain name.  There could always be 
people who should not have them.



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