I don't expect this will change, but I find the reasoning that appears to be behind it rather
interesting.
So, let me see if I understand this. So that you and other TDF Members can now have
libreoffice.org e-mail addresses (which will be forwarded to whatever actual e-mail services hold
and deliver mail as each individual member arranges) like floeff@libreoffice.org, all the rest of
us have to learn how to send mail to mailing-list-name@global.libreoffice.org when we have
struggled already to learn how to work with list mailing-list-name@libreoffice.org,
mailing-list-name+help@libreoffice.org, etc.
And this irreversible change may or may not be disruptive in unexpected ways, but you'll do your
best because it is being done by throwing a switch on the universe and Mother Nature can be
petulant about such things (not to mention the opportunity it affords for Puck, Kokopelli, and Loki
to have a little fun with the foolish humans).
So does this mean that the archives will also change their URLs and any linking we have done to
existing list posts will be broken? (I mention this as one place where the law of unintended
consequences may step in. Will all of the threads be broken too?) Of course, there is already
archive.libreoffice.org for those. Do they stay that way?
Additional curiosities. Is there some system that has global.libreoffice.org be preferable to
lists.libreoffice.org ? Or is this some limitation of how Heinlein Support is working their
magic? Maybe what you really want is honorifics, so you can be floeff@founders.libreoffice.org or
floeff@members.libreoffice.org and floeff@staff.libreoffice.org (you can go crazy with this, though
I recommend against floeff@supremeleader.libreoffice.org ) since you're going to have to redo your
stationery and business cards anyhow?
Now, I do like affinity forwardings. After all, I get to be dennis.hamilton@acm.org (a forwarding)
and also orcmid@sourceforge.net and even orcmid@google.com (set up as a forwarding too) and, once
upon a time, orcmid@computer.org. I may even have Facebook and Linked-in affinities, though I
haven't bothered to check. I am just looking at the system-engineering aspects of this mid-course
correction and how it appears to disrupt the many for the benefit of a few. Odd, that, considering
what it is we are out to accomplish and promote and who we say we are?
Playfully,
- Dennis
PS: I do happen to filter on what appears in the "To" of incoming mail. But it is relatively easy
to change those rules since I also use a white-list spam system and the new "To" and perhaps "from"
e-mail addresses will go to spam until I do something about them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Florian Effenberger [mailto:floeff@documentfoundation.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 01:25
To: accessibility@libreoffice.org; design@libreoffice.org; documentation@libreoffice.org;
l10n@libreoffice.org; marketing@libreoffice.org; projects@libreoffice.org; users@libreoffice.org;
website@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] changes for this mailing list
Hello everyone,
as part of our membership process, we also would like to give @libreoffice.org e-mail forwarders to
our approved members. Thanks to the folks from Heinlein Support in Berlin, who offered to take care
of the mail forwarding and to program a web tool to enable users to configure the forwarding!
In order to be able to use two different mail servers -- one for mailing lists, and one for the
mail forwarders -- we have to change the addresses of a few mailing lists.
In a nutshell: All lists currently known as @libreoffice.org will in the future be known as
@global.libreoffice.org
[ ... ]
You do *not* have to un- or resubscribe from any lists, as the list of all recipients will be
automatically transferred to the new addresses.
The subject prefix, like [libreoffice-website], will also stay the *same*. What *will* change is
the address you have to send e-mails to, and the headers like List-Post and List-ID. So, in case
you filter your e-mails based on the headers, you *do* need to act. This is most likely the case if
you use a local mail client like Thunderbird. Webmail services like Google Mail usually do *not*
make use of these headers.
The change will be effective during the day of
Thursday, June 9th
I will send a follow-up e-mail when the addresses have changed.
Immediately after that, assume the old addresses will stop working. I will try to set them as
aliases for a few days, but I cannot guarantee it will work out.
However, *no* e-mail will be lost -- in case there is no alias in place, you will receive a bounce
message and can re-send the mail again.
Sorry for these inconveniences, but they will help us in providing e-mail forwarders for our
members.
In case of questions, feel free to ask me directly, or on the website@ mailing list.
Florian
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