Re: [libreoffice-users] evolution

Actually Office Dog (from Microsoft Bob) was still around in Office 2004,
never used Office 2007 or later, but if you have a copy and the ability to
choose 'helpers' is still available, I'll bet he's still in there. They
never through anything out.

Making people think is something we should all do. A friend of mine agreed
to help me with a novel I was stuck on. Rather than tell me what I was doing
wrong, she (a professional novelist) asked me a bunch of questions. I
learned more from trying to answer her questions, then I would if she'd just
told me where I'd made the mistakes. A lot more. The novel is nearly
finished, or I should say the first draft is nearly finished. It's been an
interesting journey.

Wayne





On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Bruce Carlson <bruce@grahamgroup.com.au>wrote:

> Yes Wayne,
>
> But you know as well as I do that simply following the leader or blindly
> following someone else's ideas is no substitute for thinking.
> Otherwise there would be no evolution only extinction.
> Could you give us readers a quick list of other short term "species" that
> never survived past MS. Like office dog for example.
>
> Two of my favourite expressions:-
> 1:      It's amazing how the youth of today are so eager to instil upon
> their elders the benefit of their inexperience.
> 2:      It's sad how the elders of today are so reluctant to entertain the
> fresh ideas of their children.
>
> By the way, my first desktop machine was an old cpm machine and I'm sure it
> had no numbers but it did have an external 256k RAM drive and two 10 inch
> floppies. The operating system was compiled by a guy calling himself "Micro
> Pete".
> my programing path is:- machine code (in industrial switching applications)
> to assembler to Fortran to C to Cobol to basic to c++ to gw basic to qbasic
> to vb to visual c++ to dot net basic to c#. Along the way, add sql, aspx,
> MONO, 4GL, Delphi and a few mainframe scripting languages like REX that I
> can't remember a thing about.
> (funny how so many were MS languages. Must have had something to do with
> industry demands at the time.)
>
> Because I'm at work and using MS outlook 2010, I'll send this as soon as I
> can find where they have hidden the bl&#@*y spell checker.
>
> And as a student of anthropology, I also liked your evolution theory. :-)
> Keep up the good work in making people think. Challenging the norm.
>
> Bruce Carlson.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Borean [mailto:wborean@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2011 12:06 PM
> To: users@libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] question
>
> Ah, but the Ribbon menu is important. It's another evolutionary option for
> the interface. Whether you like it or not is to a certain extent a matter
> of
> taste. Quite frankly I hated using a GUI for a long time. It slowed me down
> too much. It still does slow me down in some ways, a command line is more
> efficient IF YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM WELL.
>
> If you don't, a GUI is easier.
>
> And some of it is simply a matter of taste. If you grew up with curry on
> your food, it won't taste right without it.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Bruce Carlson
> <bruce@grahamgroup.com.au>wrote:
>
> > Yes I can understand how you, thinking that you are younger, feeling
> > like you are mature, and all the time it is your inexperience that is
> > restricting you to see only what is put in front of you and you are
> > unable to use logic to put together all that surrounds you so
> > therefore you, as are many other Y generationalists, (but not all),
> > willing to accept only what you are told and unable to think outside the
> square you are ordered to live in.
> > To be honest with us and with yourself, if the reason you will not use
> > LO is because you will only use an office suite if has ribbon button
> > menus than you are the exact petty minded person that Microsoft relies
> > on for it's future profits.
> >
> >
> > Bruce Carlson
> > an X gernerationalist.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Csenger Attila Szabó [mailto:csenger41@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011 6:06 PM
> > To: users@libreoffice.org
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] question
> >
> > OK, in my case, the only reason why I DON'T use LO is the lack of ribbon.
> > I accept that not everyone likes that, that's why I wrote the idea of
> > an extensions or plugin. So those who like the ribbon would be able to
> use
> it.
> > @Bruce: I have to disagree with you, I find the ribbon much faster and
> > easier to use. And I'm not the only one, many of the people around,
> > especially the younger ones find much more useful the ribbon than the
> > dropdown menus.
> > I know that those who get used to the menu-style won't like any other
> > solution, but you are not the only ones.
> > So what about the plugin/extension thing?
> >
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