Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu - "don't install LibreOffice manually from the ".deb" files"

On 02/09/2011 04:06 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
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> On 11-02-09 09:44 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
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> > Ubuntu's site states:
> >
> > quote: "If you're using Ubuntu, don't install LibreOffice manually from
> > the ".deb" files available at LibreOffice.org
> > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice.org>. Otherwise you will not get
> > automatic updates&  upgrades when new versions come out and you will be
> > missing the integration to Ubuntu. Using official packages also ensures
> > you get the best assistance from the community as this is the
> > recommended method to install&  use LibreOffice in Ubuntu"
> >
> > They want you to use the PPA link or their repository for the latest
> > updates.
> Hi there - I initially wrote the above documentation. Using the PPA is
> only needed for 10.04LTS and 10.10.
>
> It also states:
> "A PPA is always considered a third-party application and unfit for
> production purposes (as far as official commercial support goes),
> however LibreOffice is becoming part of Ubuntu in April 2011, and this
> PPA is the source for such official version. Make sure you test this
> appropriately if you intend to use this in a production environment
> under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or 10.10. "
>
> > Actually, I found that the OOo web site updated quicker and more often
> > than Ubuntu's repository for their version of OOo.  I do not think they
> > will be any faster with LibreOffice updates.
> Of course - LibO has a different release shedule than LibO. Only stable
> Ubuntu releases will have any LibO version. The PPA is considered a
> development version. When LibO is officially released in Ubuntu (April
> this year), there may be a "LibO-stable" PPA and a "LibO-dev" PPA or
> else - Mozilla packages are managed in a similar way.
>
> > Yes, it will be much easier to keep up-to-date when LibreOffice is in
> > its repository and then find that there is an update shown in the daily,
> > weekly, etc., update schedule that you set in your update manager.
> Right now there is not an important delay that I can see between the
> LibO releases and the PPA. Canonical has assigned staff to it and bugs
> are being worked on, assigned, etc. The situation is improving. So in
> practical terms, there is no significant "lag" between the PPA and .deb
> packages.
>
>   But
> > there will be a time lag between LibreOffice's updates on their web site
> > and Ubuntu's repository.  So, the "no not install manually" statement
> > may be taken the wrong way be some users as if there is something wrong
> > with LibreOffice's own downloads.
> It's one of those golden rules in most GNU/Linux distributions. In
> Ubuntu it's even more present: USE A PACKAGE MANAGER ANY AND EVERY TIME
> YOU CAN. .debs are the last choice.
>
> Even the fact someone would use the PPA is considered by far a more
> advanced technical level than just going to the Ubuntu Software Center.
>
> The advantages of having the latest version of LibO right to the minute
> compared to the problems and maintenance .debs may generate really
> justify using the PPA (for 10.10 and 10.04LTS).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabián
>
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What about the text that, if I read it correctly, LibreOffice and 
OpenOffice.org cannot be installed and run on the same machine?  I know 
that with Ubuntu 10.10 that OOo 3.3 and LibreOffice 3.3 runs well on my 
desktop.  The only problem is the default runtime application for the 
file formats.  Sometimes OOo opens and other time LibreOffice opens 
depending on the file extension.  One day soon, I may dump OOo 
altogether and just have LibreOffice on my Ubuntu desktop and Vista 
Laptop, but not now.  I need to support OOo for my former clients that 
still call me, and others that have not switched over to LibreOffice yet.

Is there some problem with LibreOffice and OOo being installed on the 
same Ubuntu Desktop?  Is there some problem that is coming up with the 
new desktop manager in Ubuntu 11.04 that does not like both on the same 
machine?  I do not know if I even like what I have read about the new 
desktop manager for 11.04, so it will be interesting.

I know that you think that installing from the .deb files is the "last 
resort", but sometimes it is just "easier" than waiting for the 
repositories to get the next version of a package to install.  I like my 
update manager for Ubuntu, but sometimes I do not want to wait.


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