Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Idea about Ideas

Hi :)

Brilliant :)) It sounds as though DropBox makes the system about as perfect as 
possible.

For getting rid of out-of-date or obsolete ideas it would be great to have some 
swift triage done perhaps by only 1 or 2 people to swiftly remove old ideas that 
may have been already implemented or are only relevant to systems 
no-longer-in-use or to have some sort of vote-to-remove-this-item or something?  
Obsolete ideas may be quite obvious in a few cases.  If in doubt, leave it in.  
Removed items on this basis would ideally be stored for a couple of weeks in 
case a mistake had happened?  I am not sure about any of this but old items that 
block newer ideas are a bane in Ubuntu Brainstorming (dropbox cures the main 
problem tho!) 


Many thanks for reassuring me about this and many regards for the Christmas 
'break' from
Tom :)




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From: "webmaster@krackedpress.com" <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 15:22:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Idea about Ideas

On 12/21/10 09:50, plino wrote:
> > So, if an idea is new and has not received any votes yet it will be far far
> > down
> > the list.  Hence only fairly old and well marketed ideas reach anywhere
> > near the
> > top.
> Dropbox solves this by having four tabs (which are basically sort
> criterias): by Popularity (i.e. vote number), Newest (by date), In Progress
> and Completed.
> (Actually Mozilla has the same filters and more, except for Newest)
>
> In any case that is the base of the democracy/meritocracy: the ideas with
> more votes (and hopefully merit) stand out
> Of course this deprecates excellent ideas which go un-noticed because they
> were poorly tagged or described.
> There are no perfect systems...
>
>
> > Some obsolete ideas 'may' have been removed by a person working through
> > 'some'
> > of the list.  This still leaves many old ideas much further up the list
> > than
> > newly suggested ideas.
> That is why I suggested that the devs discussed the topten monthly so that
> no single person would dismiss an idea.
> If the topten remain the same because none has been added/dismissed, the
> following ten should be discussed..
>
> New ideas just need to have supporters, which means many people agree that
> the idea is good...
>
> Regards,
> Pedro
>
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: plino 
> > > I found Ubuntu Brainstorm very dis-satisfying.  The main problem with it
> > > (imo)
> > > is that the first few pages are all old ideas that have received a lot of
> > > votes.
> > > If the first page had the most easily viable ideas along with the most
> > > innovative and interesting ideas then it would work a lot better.  The
> > > problem
> > > is how could that be automated??
> > That is quite simple. If the ideas are outdated they should simply be
> > dismissed by the devs as Outdated :)
> >
> > The voting process is the most democratic (anyone can suggest an idea) and
> > the most meritocratic (the best ideas climb to the top independently of who
> >
> > suggested them)
> >
> > Of course this "forces" the devs to take a look at the list, say once a
> > month, discuss the top 10 items and classify them as Planned, Outdated,
> > Portponed, Rejected, etc (this is a mix of options available in Dropbox and
> >
> > Sourceforge)
> >
> > As soon as an idea is classified as Completed it is archived and the next
> > most voted idea will rise to the top 10 "automagically" ;)

I have been wondering if these ideas could be "sorted" by newest well as
top 10 for each month.
This was stated before, but there needs to be more options to the
sorting process.

The voting idea is fine, but as stated earlier, there needs to be some
weight to the problem of
the oldest ideas getting more votes due to the time on the "forum". 

One of my user groups for a community based network computing system
changed forum
scripts.  When they did that, they took a look at the categories of the
threads and made the
new forum to be divided into groups based on the thread subjects.  Is
there a possibility to
have the discussion system allow for an administrator to look at the
ideas and group them
based upon some subject?  Group Writer, Calc, etc., ideas in different
sections.  Group the
look and "feel" of the software in another section.  With each section,
you have sub-groupings.
Then have some type of sorting so you can view the new ideas for each
group, or major group,
along with "user rating" and such that were discussed before.

If you really want to have a discussion web page system, you must do it
right from the beginning.
There are a lot of forum and discussion site scripts out there.  Find
one that does what you want
and need, then find the lowest costing web hosting system that supports
that scripting.

My hosting account supports the following. 

Content Management    
    anyInventory, Drupal, Joomla!®,  Mambo, MODx                      
    Moodle, Nucleus, PostNuke, SilverStripe, Xoops                      
  

Forums    
    phpBB                          
    SMF (Simple Machines Forum)                          
    Vanilla Forum                          

Project Management    

    Brim, dotProject, Mantis, phpCollab, PHProjekt                      
  

Social Networking    
     Elgg                        

Tools/Scripts    
    jQuery                          
    Script.aculo.us                          

plus many other options such as many languages supported.


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