Date: prev next · Thread: first prev next last
2024 Archives by date, by thread · List index


Hi Mike,

Thanks for your notes. You are right. We have to improve the way we communicate the two different releases on the download page, especially for the majority of users, who do not understand technical subtleties. We might change something for the announcement of 24.8.

I think that we should position the two different options in a way which represents and advantage for the users, which have two options optimized for their needs (100% more than competing office suites), one with more features and the other more robust.

Given the reduced level of attention, any other information - especially if asking for some technical background, and an understanding of what is a software test and a software bug - is redundant, and there is a risk that is perceived in a negative way.

Best, Italo

On 18/07/24 11:52, Kaganski Mike wrote:
Hi!

Recently, version 7.6 EOLed; at that point, it was removed from official download page [1], and 
since version 2.8 hasn't been released yet [2], the download page only lists version 24.2.5 
currently as the primary download offer. So far, I don't see a major problem; the related but 
different topic of possibly postponing EOL till the release of the next branch is not discussed 
here.

In the current situation, 24.2.5 is advertised on the download page as "If you're a technology enthusiast, early adopter or power user, this 
version is for you!", the same as previous bugfix releases of the same branch. And here is the problem. The "early adopter" release it 
the only one offered to users visiting LibreOffice site. This created FUD, created by ourselves. There are questions like [3], [4]; there appear 
advises confusingly suggesting that 24.2.4 may be preferred over 24.2.5 [5]. Even the release announcement of 24.2.5 [6] has "For users who 
don’t need the latest features and prefer a version that has undergone more testing and bug fixing, The Document Foundation maintains a version with 
some months of back-ported fixes" statement, without a direct reference to it. But the previous announcement [7] had "The current release 
is LibreOffice 7.6.7 Community, but it will soon be replaced exactly by LibreOffice 24.2.4 when the new major release LibreOffice 24.8 becomes 
available" statement, implying that 24.2.4 was meant to obtain "more tested" status.

Note that "more tested" is not simply "more tested than the other offering on this download page", 
but - more importantly - results in a different target audience. And we must make sure, that at the point when there is 
no second offering, our single offering has reached the point of maturity to target those who need stability (note that 
practically, 24.2.5 is already there), and that _it_is_marked_as_such_officially_ - both in release announcement, and 
on download page.

[1] https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/24.8
[3] 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/is-libreoffice-only-for-technology-enthusiasts-early-adopters-power-users-and-business-users/108280
[4] https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/telechargement-de-libreoffice-version-stable/108157
[5] https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/header-vanishes/108305/2
[6] https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/07/11/libreoffice-24-2-5/
[7] https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/06/06/libreoffice-24-2-4/

--
Best regards,
Mike Kaganski

--
Italo Vignoli - italo@vignoli.org
mobile/signal +39.348.5653829
GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0


--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/
Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy

Context


Privacy Policy | Impressum (Legal Info) | Copyright information: Unless otherwise specified, all text and images on this website are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License. This does not include the source code of LibreOffice, which is licensed under the Mozilla Public License (MPLv2). "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation" are registered trademarks of their corresponding registered owners or are in actual use as trademarks in one or more countries. Their respective logos and icons are also subject to international copyright laws. Use thereof is explained in our trademark policy.