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Hi Nigel,

The phenomenon is peculiar to the US and not to Canada, where we have volunteer advocates (although not many, but enough to organize activities). Outside the US we usually have many communities of volunteers, in all continents. For sure, we have volunteers in Mexico, and smaller countries such as Costa Rica. We are starting a program to identify ambassadors, but of course starting from zero in a huge country such as the US is way from ideal. In any case, I will try to organize the video chat with organizers of US FOSS events because I think this might be a first step to face the issue (unless those copied here will tell me that this is a stupid idea).

Briefing people, and inundating them with materials to prepare for the meetings at a FOSS event is not a problem. Also, we could send them marketing materials, stickers and swag for the visitors, and general slide decks to prepare for presentations.

Thanks again for providing an alternative POV to Mike's answer, which represents our current situation, as we would love to have a large US based LibreOffice community.

Best, Italo

On 1/9/23 19:20, Nigel Verity wrote:
Hi Italo

Unfortunately, being located in the UK, I cannot put myself forward for SCALE. I would, in any 
case, need an awful lot of briefing beforehand before I felt sufficiently confident to address the 
detail of issues likely to be raised by the calibre of people attending SCALE.

I have to say that it comes as a surprise that US participation in LO is mainly limited to a large number of 
enthusiastic users. Is this a phenomenon peculiar to the US/Canada or representative of the entire world 
outside Europe? If the latter then perhaps a way needs to be found to identify supporters who may be able to 
act as regional "ambassadors", for want of a better term, using local languages to further promote 
active participation in the project.

Easy to come up with "blue sky" ideas like this, of course. I realise it would be a job and a half 
to implement such a thing. The fact remains though that there is an enormous pool of development skills in 
North America. There must be some way of tapping into it for the benefit of LO.


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LO at SCALE in March?

Hi Nigel, we would love to have a US based community of LibreOffice volunteer advocates, but it 
looks like in the US we have a large number of users but we completely miss volunteers who show up 
to help the global project with activities such as staffing a booth at SCALE. TDF is the 
organization representing the LibreOffice community, and has a budget to help these activities to 
happen (for instance, we can reimburse travel and lodging expenses for events, and the production 
of swag for the booth). Unfortunately, the old volunteers coming from the OOo project have retired 
or have passed away too early, and nobody has shown up to replace them. We have had to sadly turn 
down similar opportunities at other US FOSS events during 2022, and we don't see how to solve the 

We would be happy to work with you and with other organizers of FOSS events in the US to attract 
volunteer advocates for LibreOffice. Any suggestion? Should we organize a video chat to discuss the 
topic? I would be happy to organize the video chat, inviting you and other people who can help us, 
at least with suggestions about actions to address the issue.

Does it sound feasible for you? In any case, thanks for your message, which shows that we have 
loyal users and followers in the US, and best regards, Italo

On 1/9/23 16:52, Nigel Verity wrote:

Hi Mike Is a representative of TDF the only option? I'm sure there are some top notch LO supporters and/or developers within a reasonable distance of SCALE. With solid briefing from TDF beforehand such manning of a table at the event could 
demonstrate well the nature of the LO project as truly collaborative rather than a quasi-proprietary product of TDF. Nige Mon Jan 09 15:00:48 GMT+00:00 2023 Mike 
Saunders<><>: Hi Ilan! On 09.01.23 15:40, Ilan Rabinovitch wrote: > > Hi Libre Office Team, Any interest in joining us in March? Thanks for the 
offer of a table! None of us in the TDF Team are in north America, so I don't think anyone can attend in March, I'm afraid. If something changes though, we'll let you know :-) Have a good event! Cheers, Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail<>  
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