Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Infographic 'Changing Face of LibreOffice'.

Drew/Mike

That answers all the points I raised. Thanks very much.

It would be both interesting and useful to capture some stats about how popular the notebookbar vs 
standard toolbar prove to be, but I'm not sure this can be automated without being intrusive

Nige
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From: Drew Jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com>
Sent: 24 November 2018 16:52
To: nigelverity@hotmail.com
Cc: mike.saunders@documentfoundation.org; Tdf Marketing
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Infographic 'Changing Face of LibreOffice'.

Howdy Mike,

I will reply in line.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:56 AM Nigel Verity 
<nigelverity@hotmail.com<mailto:nigelverity@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Mike

With the notebookbar coming out of experimental I'm assuming it will be selected from the "User 
Interface" item on the "View" menu, as now when the user permits experimental features.

Yes, but only one item is added to the view menu, 'Tabbed'. The other versions of a notebookbar 
visible when experimental features is selected are still experimental.


This gives 9 options, of which 6 relate to an MS Office type of menu system. I can't help thinking 
this will confuse as many people as it impresses. Has a decision been made as to which option is 
the default for a user selecting the notebookbar rather than the classic menu? Perhaps a one-click 
method to toggle between the default notebookbar and classic menu should be considered.

With 6.2 the default look after installation is the Standard Toolbar (as old and stayed as that 
look is).

Switching to the Tabbed (notebook bar) is available, by module, from the top level View menu.

When the Tabbed (notebook bar) is visible the top level menu is removed. The Tabbed bar now offers 
two drop down menus, one is available across all tabs, there is  also a tab specific menu.

The ability to change back to the Standard Toolbar UI is always available from the All Tabs drop 
down menu, which of course restores the top level menu also.

It should also me noted that secondary toolbars can still be used with the Tabbed (notebook bar), 
this is controlled both by context (some functions turn on secondary tool bars) or by the user from 
an item on the All Tabs drop down menu.

Best wishes,

Drew


Regards

Nige
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From: Mike Saunders 
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Sent: 23 November 2018 08:46
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:marketing@global.libreoffice.org>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Infographic 'Changing Face of LibreOffice'.

Hello,

On 23/11/2018 09:09, kainz.a wrote:
> I would recommend to focus on some toppics and don't mix everything in one
> Poster.

Yep, I agree! Drew, it's a great idea and thanks for working on it, but
I think we need to focus on one thing at a time with the messaging.
Otherwise people may get the idea that LibreOffice is too complicated,
can't decide on a cohesive interface etc.

The NotebookBar is going to be a big deal for LO 6.2, so we need to
focus on one or two variants of it and say:

* What it is (a new, OPTIONAL user interface design -- we're not
changing everything! Otherwise we'll get a huge amount of angry comments
on social media ;-) )

* Why it's great (work with items in context, faster workflow etc.)

* How to try it -- and super important, how to go back!

IMO we need to simultaneously communicate that LibreOffice 6.2 has the
same reliable, trusted, familiar user interface as previous releases,
but is also modern, forward-looking and adaptable. This isn't easy, but
if we do it right and not overload people with lots of information and
screenshots, I think we can make it work...

Mike

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