Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice weekly newsletter

Hello William,


Le 15.06.2014 18:50, William Gathoye a écrit :
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> Hi Charles, *
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> First, thanks you all for your feedback, I'm really pleased ;-)
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> On 06/14/2014 09:43 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > - could you describe how you select content?
> Actually, as I'm subscribed to all ML lists, I take the time to read
> all what I find interesting on ML and Bugzilla.
>
> The subjects I find interesting are:
> - - the rather long threads on ML: having a brief summary of the 
> current
> situation of the discussion is always great;
> - - the most recurrent subjects;
> - - subject difficult to understand;
> - - controversial topics;
> - - first contributions;
> - - progress on the hackfest organization.


nice, I like your approach!

> > - you can make it attractive if we give you a few logos, but surely
> > you need acccess to our wiki or some sort of official blog for
> > this... interested?
> I want to keep the document as clean as possible, and will include
> only additional content needed for the comprehension of the article
> like X/Y graphics, modified feature in the GUI, etc.

So I'm thinking about putting this newsletter online, meaning, on a wiki 
or on a blog post; then ensuring it can be spread via mailing list (text 
only) so we'll have to work on the style itself, although most of it can 
be improved by the choice of the right online platform. A text only 
solution is not only useful but can co-exist; it's all about 
"refactoring" the message.

> Publishing a PDF document via Twitter wasn't clearly the ideal format
> to use. Making LOWN official would be nice, indeed.

I think we should do this, probably by adding a bit more content though. 
See below.

> Sorry for having used LaTeX, I know from a marketing POV it isn't
> great. But what I wanted was:
> - - be allowed to use Vim: I don't like to use a GUI for writing: it is
> distracting and hurting my eyes.
> - - have an auto-citation system;
> - - see the changes made between 2 commits.


What the hell are you doing contributing to Libreoffice then? :p

> LaTeX and Github were answering these problem quite nicely. As Git is
> used more effectively on text-based files, I needed a text based tool
> like markdown or LaTeX. I dropped markdown since it has not citation
> system. The remaining defacto solution was the LaTeX.


More seriously: use whatever tool you like, just don't think of it as a 
document but as a webpage. Better use txt + html. Again,, we want to 
have this online, not as a document or just as a text.

> > - again, thank you for all this I like the breadth and quality of
> > content. Let's make this a collaborative effort.
> For sure. But the initial idea was to keep it oriented to developers
> as much possible. Although I'm not against to broaden the audience. If
> you have interesting content I'm not aware of, you can let me know and
> I will gonna integrate it.
>
> At first, I thought that
> - - using pull requests on Github
> - - and sending content via email for those who don't use Github
> would be a great idea.
>
> After a discussion on #libreoffice-fr, I realised that a Wiki page for
> each LOWN is a great solution.

yup; perhaps even an official blog platform. What do you think?

> I can still use Vim if I copy paste the changes to the wiki, the
> commit are saved and we have block references with [1].

Are you confident in that extension?


> > - we can see how best to circulate this newsletter and make not
> > just a tool for the outside, but a means of information for the
> > entire project.


At this stage, we should improve it on two levels then imho:
-formatting/style/web page
- adding more non-developers topic: native-lang communities, 
localization work matters a lot and I expect this newsletter to be read 
by them as one of our major audiences.

Best,

Charles.

> On 06/14/2014 02:21 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > > For some reason, the given link will not lead me to any webpage
> > > in my browser.... :-( Is anybody else experiencing problems to
> > > make it work???
> >
> > Maybe Will has deleted the pdf?
>
> Nope, the link is till valid and always will be. It's a link to the
> document hosted on my Github which is a pdf.
>
> I tested on IE, FF and Chrom(e/ium) and the link is working fine. BUT
> according to the tests I made with curl -IL, the pdf is detected as
> binary --> can cause problem on some platforms. Cannot fix this, the
> mimetype error comes from Github.
>
>
> [1]
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> William Gathoye
> <william@gathoye.be>
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