[libreoffice-marketing] Base data-loss and other problems

> ________________________________
> From: Ian Whitfield <hidden>
> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 14:34
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Tom says ...
> > I'm fairly sure that quite a few people have had troubles with the internal back-end that were 
> > solved by 'just' moving to an external back-end.  I vaguely remember someone even suffering 
> > data-loss using the embedded/internal back-end.  Was there a bug-report?  Should people be 
> > encouraged to stick with the internal/embedded back-end or warned off from it?
>
> And Hank replied ...
> > My experience with the embedded database in Base has convinced me to move
> > to an external back-end. I have had several instances of data loss
> > particularly during sessions of heavy data input.
> > While I'm in the process of moving my database to an external  H2 database,
> > I still use the embedded database carefully, however. I backup the embedded
> > database before adding data, sparingly or working with the Report Writer.
> > Both of these activitie have resulted in data loss in the past. I still
> > like Base as a front end, however.
>
> I have to agree with you 200% Tom - and if some people don't like it - 
> too bad!!
>
> IT'S TRUE!! - The 'Embedded engine/Base Front End' combination is a 
> disaster!! I have been using Base for about 7 years now and had nothing 
> but problems. It's slow, crashes all the time, freezes etc etc and 
> FREQUENTLY takes the data file with it when it crashes. The only 
> recourse is to back-up all the time, (several times each session), so 
> that you can get back at your data and be prepared to enter stuff more 
> than once during a busy session.
>
> Because of this I HAVE LOST and/or had to re-enter data time and time 
> again!!
> This is supported by Hank above I see, (and I'm sure many others)!!
>
> Late last year I converted to MySQL as the Backend and Base as the Front 
> End. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!! As I said to people it's like getting out of 
> your old broken-down, unreliable Beetle and driving around in the latest 
> Rolls Royce!! Solid, fast, never crashes and is just fantastic!!
>
> I'm currently running BOTH set-ups, on two different machines 
> side-by-side, for cross checking purposes and the difference is 
> startling when you do this. The one is slow and plodding, (and still 
> crashes), and the other "just works" - and fast!!
>
> IMHO the current engine in Base should be dropped, (or fixed), and a 
> change made to make stand-alone Base of any serious use.
> I saw recently a mention of wanting to do this and change to Firebird!! 
> (??)
>
> For now I'm VERY happy with my 'MySQL/Base combination!!
>
> Best wishes
>
> IanW
> Pretoria RSA
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