Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Certification and accreditation

On 10 April 2013 09:07, Charles-H. Schulz <
charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Thanks Ian. At the risk of repeating myself this is a taks based mailing
> list for marketing and not a venue for advertisement.
I'd have considered getting the brand out on certificates across eg Kenya
to be a directly relevant marketing task. Seems other community members,
Evans, Tom and  Cor agree with that. I'm only responding to their posts
with relevant and objective information, I didn't initiate the thread. But
as I said I haven't time for petty squabbling so I have removed LO logo and
references from our site, you can check at
https://theingots.org/community/home. If you come across any you don't like
anywhere I'm happy to remove them. We have nothing to gain from publicising
LO and if anything it costs us in time and effort so it is far more
sensible for me to put time effort and resources into FOSS communities
where I don't get aggravation.

> Let's close that thread now.
As far as I am concerned I only responded relevantly and in context with
information people might find useful. If this message closes the thread its
fine by me.

> Thanks,
>
> Charles.
>
>
>
> Ian Lynch <ianrlynch@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > On 9 April 2013 20:29, Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ian Lynch wrote (09-04-13 12:44)
> > > A point to note is we don't do courses. We quality assure the outcomes of
> > >
> > > > courses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the way you assure the quality of the outcomes something that we can
> > > learn from?
> >
> >
> >
> > Possibly - it's agreed with the UK national regulators through the
> > Regulatory Conditions. They are at
> > http://www.theingots.org/community/OfqualA
> >
> > Its a bit like an ISO 9000 system for Awarding Organisations. In essence we
> > deal with centres - Schools, Colleges and Adult Education orgs. We train
> > their
> >  staff
> > as assessors and they sign professional agreements on the web
> > site to uphold professional standards. We sample their work and in some
> > cases use short on-line tests to verify standards. The methods depend on
> > the risk presented by the qualification in terms of the level and its
> > purpose. You can down load the handbook we use for schools at
> > https://theingots.org/community/handbook2 Click here in the first
> > paragraph. There is a model test in the book and some explanation of the
> > assessment methods.
> >
> > This means we do not have a lot of content to change and we leave
> >
> > > the teaching to the institutions professional preferences.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  The
> > > only things to up date are the Logo link on the home page of the web
> > >
> > > > site
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Apart from what the board may decide, at least the use of the logo without
> > > TDF line is needed and is something you can do without delay.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and *if* it conforms with the TDF logo usage policy to put the logo on
> > >
> > > > any certificates issued to say this certificate was issued in the
> > > > context of LO.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If any use of the LibreOffice logo is allowed, then it should be in a way
> > > that it makes clear that LibreOffice is supported, and not that there is an
> > > endorsement from TDF.
> >
> >
> >
> > That really depends on a subjective judgement. Is putting a logo on a
> > certificate claimin
> >  g
> > endorsement or is it simply saying this certificate
> > was achieved using that product? I can see it could be interpreted either
> > way so before I did it I'd want specific authorisation to do it. That would
> > apply to any software not just LO. I would not want to start awarding
> > certificates and then find there was a problem some time later. It's easy
> > to remove a logo from the web site, it is not so easy to revoke
> > certificates. In fact we would also incur problems with Ofqual so that
> > would be far too big a risk to the business overall to chance it.
> >
> > PS we have a partner in the Netherlands called Pro-work. We work with them
> > on EU projects.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > > - Cor
> > > - http://nl.libreoffice.org
> > > - www.librelex.org
> --
> Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté.



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