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On 10/31/2012 05:55 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
Jay Lozier wrote (31-10-12 17:06)
On 10/31/2012 11:13 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

IMO, we should not respond to his article and just let it die a slow
death, we should not give him the "soap box" that he is looking for.
Anyone with common sense can read the writing on the wall. Let's keep
on our track and not worry about such articles. It still doesn't stop
us from reading them and taking out what may be of value to us.
Agreed, read them, discuss what we can learn from them and move on. In
this case I would say the real problem is accurately determining actual
usage from various raw download statistics for any FOSS project not just
LO. A download does not mean regular user.

Apart from statistical and measuring challenges: our downloads are interesting for us - it tells something about the way we do. Trying to compare these numbers with those of a product that flows on glory from the past, would look quite silly, IMO.



You nailed the real problem with the original article. The statistics take out of context are meaningless. The numbers mean something but what it is definitely murky because they are not direct comparisons.

What really matters IMHO for both LO and AOO is both are well supported projects going forward each having a vibrant, supportive community. Who is the biggest is not that critical if both are thriving.

The more I think about the original article the more my opinion is that it is an attempt to start a needless flame war that really does not help either project. My take is that we should be open about our numbers and how they obtained and leave it that (not that we are not already open). If someone wants to mutilate the the numbers there is not much we can do to stop them.

Jay Lozier

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