Hi :)
Hmm, try reading my post rather than ignoring it and pretending it
says soemthing other than what it really says.
Regards from
Tom :)
______________________________________________________________
From: Charles-H. Schulz
<charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org"
<marketing@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 13:54
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw:
[tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice
3.6.2
Public announcements are obviously marketing. Someone
repeatedly
complaining that software comes with bugs on the marketing
list is not
related to marketing.
Charles.
Le 4 oct. 2012 14:48, "Tom Davies" <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> a
écrit :
> Hi :)
> Ahh, sorry. I didn't realise that public announcements and
press releases
> have nothing to do with marketing.
> Apols and regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Charles-H. Schulz
<charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
> >To: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org"
<marketing@global.libreoffice.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 13:30
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously??
Fw:
> [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice
3.6.2
> >
> >Tom,
> >
> >The points you are making are repeated at each release. I
cannot really
> >help if you refuse to understand how we work or how
software development
> >works. But as we are on the marketing list we need to work
on marketing
> and
> >not lose our time with recurring rants that are not related
to marketing.
> >
> >We must discipline ourselves if we are on this list and
post on it: we
> work
> >on marketing and stay focused on it.
> >
> >Thank you for your understanding.
> >
> >Charles.
> >
> >Charles.
> >Le 4 oct. 2012 14:01, "Tom Davies"
<tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit :
> >
> >> Hi :)
> >> Again. The only advantage listed for the new release in
the newest
> branch
> >> of LO is that it's "more stable". What is it more stable
than? Is it
> more
> >> stable than the 3.5.6?
> >>
> >> Putting anything mentioning bug-fixes and possible
regressions just
> makes
> >> people wonder what new bugs and new regressions are
likely to appear in
> >> this new release. Most profitable software companies
avoid mentioning
> the
> >> possibility that their new software might be buggy and
have new
> regressions
> >> despite the fact we know that both are likely. I think
we should avoid
> >> mentioning it too until they become more open and honest
about the
> >> possibility.
> >>
> >>
> >> Possibly marginally better to say "latest" rather than
"last" unless you
> >> include a date. "Last" sounds fairly finally and hints
that it
> happened a
> >> long time ago. I don't know why. Both really mean
roughly the same
> thing
> >> if you look them up in a dictionary.
> >>
> >>
> >> Again there are tons of advantages to the newest branch
but stability is
> >> not one of them. If people want stability then they are
better off
> chosing
> >> the latest release in the older branch. If they want,
for example,
> better
> >> compatibility with "other" formats and programs (ie such
as MS's) then
> >> 3.6.x is probably best.
> >>
> >>
> >> Please. Can we have those circular or just plain wrong
arguments again
> >> about
> >> 1. "I haven't noticed any bugs so far and few people
have reported
> >> bugs". Therefore no bugs really exist because things
don't exist until
> >> after they have been discovered. For example, the water
on Mars didn't
> >> exist until there were photos of it.
> >>
> >> 2. "Any bugs found need to be reported against the
earliest version of
> >> LO/OOo they can be found in."
> >>
> >> 3. Rinse and repeat.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. "It must be more stable. It's newer." Therefore it
must be more
> >> stable.
> >>
> >> 2. "We must expect new branches to have more bugs as a
result of
> having
> >> much greater functionality"
> >> 3. "Older branches focus on bug-fixes and therefore tend
to have less
> new
> >> added functionality"
> >>
> >> 4. Therefore "the only thing we can say about new
branches is that they
> >> are more stable."
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. "All software has bugs." [Perhaps implying that LO
is no more
> stable
> >> than java]
> >>
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >> >From: Italo Vignoli
<italo.vignoli@documentfoundation.org>
> >> >To: announce@documentfoundation.org
> >> >Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 12:05
> >> >Subject: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation
announces LibreOffice
> >> 3.6.2
> >> >
> >> >Berlin, October 4, 2012 - The Document Foundation (TDF)
announces
> >> >LibreOffice 3.6.2, for Windows, MacOS and Linux, solving
bugs and
> >> >regressions and further improving the stability of the
program for
> >> >corporate deployments. The best free office suite ever
is quickly
> >> >becoming the de facto standard for migrations to free
office suites,
> >> >thanks to the quickly growing feature set and the
improved
> >> >interoperability with proprietary software.
> >> >
> >> >The growing number of LibreOffice adoptions by private
and public
> >> >enterprises is a demonstration of the improvements
brought to the
> legacy
> >> >code by TDF, thanks to over 500 developers who are
focusing on
> stability
> >> >and quality (in addition to new exciting features).
> >> >
> >> >The last public administration to migrate has been the
city of
> Limerick,
> >> >Ireland's third largest city, where LibreOffice is now
used on all 450
> >> >desktops in use at the city's six main locations
including the three
> >> >public libraries, the fire department, the municipal
museum and the
> City
> >> >Gallery of Art.
> >> >
> >> >The community behind LibreOffice will gather in Berlin
for the second
> >> >LiboCon from October 17 to October 19. During three
days, company
> >> >representatives and volunteers will discuss their
experiences, learning
> >> >from each other in the true spirit of the community.
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >LibreOffice 3.6.2 is available for immediate download
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> following
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> >> >
> >> >Change logs are available at
> >> >
> >>
>
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.2.1.log
> >> >(fixed in 3.6.2.1) and
> >> >
> >>
>
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.2.2.log
> >> >(fixed in 3.6.2.2).
> >> >
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