Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Impact of Mozilla's decision regarding Thunderbird on LibreOffice and need to act?

That sounds great. If only we could get a co-branded version that ships
with LO.
On Jul 15, 2012 10:14 AM, "Charles-H. Schulz" <
charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello Dave,
>
> It's one thing to advocate, and another thing to find a sustainable stream
> of developers who can develop TB or any other email client.
> Anyway, this being said, it seems that the Mozilla Foundation is explaining
> a different story about TB . Check this :
>
> http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/
>
> What this means is that TB is not going away. The community can contribute
> to it, and I think that's what supposed to happen. I'm also convinced
> there's some real business opportunity around it, so I'm not all too
> worried about it.
>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
>
>
> 2012/7/15 Dave Johnson <davefilms.us@gmail.com>
>
> > I agree... TB is a need for LO. Not a want. To effectively compete in the
> > market we (LO / TDF) must have an  integrated PIM. I have been advocating
> > this in the past.
> > On Jul 15, 2012 6:20 AM, "Gerry T." <gerry.treppel@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Dear Charles,
> > >
> > > thank you very much for your reply.
> > >
> > >  [...] I am not sure I agree with your thesis. I would point out that
> in
> > > > most
> > > > organization it's the email / groupware server (Exchange/Lotus) that's
> > > > the primary barrier, not the mail client.
> > > > If I'm not mistaken Thunderbird or Mozilla do not distribute such
> > > > groupware server.
> > > Thundbird/Lightning as client programmes is in this regard similar
> > > situation like LibreOffice, Yes, Mozilla does not provide a groupware
> > > server, but - with some quirks - TB can communicate with those (e.g.
> > > Exchange).
> > > I think, you are right for big organisations or companies, but for the
> > > small and medium size organisations/companies the email/PIM client is
> > > central (e.g. our institute (university) with roughly 100 staff is
> based
> > on
> > > IMAP-Server, shared calendar, shared adress book, shared storage). For
> > this
> > > big target group of organisations/companies, there is basically the
> > > decision between MS Outlook and Thunderbird/Lightning. And if Outlook
> is
> > > chosen, the Office suite is MS Office.
> > >
> > > > [...] But to come back to your suggestion, I think that while the
> > > > development
> > > > or distribution of a mail client alongside LibreOffice might be worth
> > > > thinking about *if the appropriate resources* are available, the
> notion
> > > > that the Document Foundation would "take over" the development of
> > > > Thunderbird is impractical, and will not become real in any way.
> > > What I am proposing is not to take over the development in any way, my
> > > suggestion is more in the way of signalling to Mozilla.org that
> > > TB/Lightning are also very important projects for the future success of
> > > LibreOffice. And maybe in the direction of promoting the other
> > > project/product to be the best complement to the own software
> > (LibreOffice
> > > + TB/Lightning = full office suite).
> > > There are, of course, also interesting features, where the teams could
> > > cooperate, e.g. the ability to view ODF files directly in Thunderbird.
> Or
> > > to edit ODF files with LibreOffice from within TB without the hazzle of
> > > saving_from_email -> editing_in_LO -> saving_in_LO _>
> > attach_again_to_email.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Gerry
> > >
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