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2012/6/26 drew jensen <>

On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 08:23 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Could we please take out the "ODF plugfest" mention and replace it by ODF
Track? It seems that IBM is vehemently refusing to allow the official ODF
Plugfest to occur at the LibreOffice Conference .
We of course would not want to embarrass these gentlemen.


Hello Charles, et al

Well that did not sound very good at all and I was rather distressed by
the statement of facts there. I had the opportunity to ask about this in
a different public forum, but too individuals I assumed directly
involved. I did so, let me tell you why.

I think this is very important, this plugfest, at the conference - for
one thing I believe it is the type of activity core to the idea of doing
things for the common good. Beyond that however, beyond just the common
good, it is also of great good, IMO, to TDF/Libreoffice specifically.

Anyway - so here is the text of an email I sent about this:

"What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF
Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference
but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking what's up with that
- what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by....
and all that BS?" I hope that is a reasonable paraphrase of what Charles
said above.

And here two responses.

Roberto Galopinni said:
"We have a conf call planned for this Thursday, I don't think we have
any blocker. The only issue I've been reading about is all about the
fact that part of the discussion about the organization has not been
held on the usual channels. As a result some of us were not aware of
the fact the next ODF-Plugfest was going to be held concurrently with
LO event, so when the news come out it was a kind of surprise.

So said, we're on track to start working on making it happen.


Rob Weir responded with a lengthier email, mostly dealing with process
and I'll quote only a portion.

4) No one (to my knowledge) from IBM has opposed or even given an
opinion on TDF hosting a Plugfest.



There was also included the comment that the mailing list:

is where requests/information about ODF Plugfests needs to go through.

So  I just want to emphasis how important I think it is for TDF to do
this, that I'm happy that it appears doable and want to help if I can -
is there any grunt kind of task that would be needed that I could
perform to help make this happen.


This is a developing situation, developing in a good sense from what I've
seen today. Today indeed, we finally agreed on a confcall for good on
Thursday. I won't comment on the various reactions you got, but I agree
with you that if we can do an official ODF plugfest together, it will be a
great thing to do.


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