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Marc Paré wrote on 2012-01-22 19:31:

A belated happy new year to all. I am still around but a little less due
to health issues. I should be able to attend the confcall that at any
time you pick.

take good care, and get well soon! As for the call, I plan to announce it today, will check Doodle later on.

* IMPORTANT! -- There should also be talk of some members of the SC
attending larger conference(s) here in the US. Last year, Florian and
Italo came to a conference but apparently there was talk that they
should have come to a more influential dev conference a month or so
later. I cannot remember the name of the larger conference, but it

Actually, it was Italo, not me being in the US, but I don't recall the exact conference he attended. IMHO it was Flourish, but I am not 100% sure about it.

should be in the archives as this was discussed last year. We need more
N.American dev presence altogether and we also need more N.American
membership presence in every other section of LibreOffice to give
N.Americans a better sense of product ownership. The same could be said
for S.American presence -- except for our marvellous Brazilian members.

My knowledge of the American market tends to zero, but would it make sense to host a separate US confcall, to bring all the American folks together? I am happy to join and learn a bit, and give advice where possible.

* We really need to find ways to penetrate the N.American markets in a
ways that are longer lasting rather than have some "temporary market
presence" and then disappearing altogether.

The US market has ever since been a problem, I recall that also from my OOo times. Large country, not so many active people (or rather, in case of OOo, probably a lack of coordination). So connecting people in a call and doing some plans might help?

* Another issue that the marketing team should look into is how to
promote LibreOffice community growth. We need to find strategies to
market not only the product but also the community. Strategies with the
objective of getting a participating membership so that we do not
constantly draw help from the same established members spreading
ourselves too thin. Perhaps this could be up for discussion at another
meeting specifically dealing with this.

I agree. The community has grown rapidly, but from my gut feeling, I'd say people are sometimes not too lazy, but rather too shy, to work on some tasks. :) I guess that sharing knowledge and actively encouraging people, and supporting in coordination, could help. This phenomenon is not exclusively to marketing, but I think to the overall project (and it's not only LibreOffice suffering from that, also other free software projects).

* My "pet complaint", get the wiki WYSIWYG working so that "newbies" are
able to work the wiki with the smallest amount of learning curve
possible. I suggested at some point that the TDF could pick up the

I will see what I can do. The problem is that the WYSIWYG editor we used up to now does not work with newer wiki versions.

development of the WYSIWYG module as one of its products. I believe a
gamer group is spearheading the development of the module, but we could
probably do a better job at getting devs interested in making it work
properly. People working on the LibreOffice wiki do so when they have
time but we would probably get more people helping out if they had a
WYSIWYG editor. Some of us would love to just go around and help
organise the wiki, but don't have time to learn wiki programming and, as
I suggested in an early post, it is ironic that we pride ourselves on
making the best WYSIWYG word processor but run our wiki on a non-WYSIWYG

Sure, if we find some volunteer developers, we can work on that, but I have no one at hand right now how volunteered. :)


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