Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

On 05/12/2011 10:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> Bsd tends (or was in the past) far to techie for most people so leaving it off
> our marketing materials would probably make no difference to most people.  Lets
> face it, mostly people will only notice the "Windows" part and ignore the rest.
>
>
> It's even possible that seeing mention of the other operating systems, such as
> Mac, might scare them off.  Many computer shops only claim to be able to help
> Windows users but will often be happy to fix linux problems at a discount.  They
> avoid mentioning that in their literature and advertising because it has been
> found to scare off Windows users.  Windows has a serious malware problems so
> people get scared easily.
That is why there will be a Windows-Only version as well, for those 
people we know that will only want or need to have a Windows version.

Malware issues - well that it why I have about 1/4 of my CPU power on my 
Vista laptop running security software.  Sometimes I use it to clean 
other people's drives by plugging in their drives a external ones.  I 
shocked an insurance guy when his tried to infect mine but could not and 
there were over 1,000 security issues on his laptop's drive.  It was 
much easier to do it that way than do all the work to get the software 
to work on his badly infected laptop.

That is one reason I now us Ubuntu as my default desktop computer and my 
laptop is now dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu.

> People that use Bsd will mostly be used to the idea that if something works in
> linux then the source code can probably be acquired easily and probably compiled
> in Bsd fairly easily.
>
>
> So, i am quite happy with the idea of leaving Bsd off the marketing materials
> but one day it would be nice if we could be open and proud of what our devs&
> people such as Baptiste Daroussin have achieved.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)

Never used BSD before, but someone told me that Mac used BSD as the 
starting point for OSX.

Well, it would be nice to not have to deal with it if we do not need to 
deal with it.

The less there is on the printed paperwork for people to deal with, the 
easier it could be do use.  I just wish that Linux would be easier to 
install software, like Windows with their .exe files.  Sometimes the 
.deb files are easy, but when you need to use the terminal for the 
install, like LibreOffice needs to, it is one more issue for people to 
not want to switch from Windows to Linux.

I wonder if there would be an easier way for Linux to be installed?  
Include a single deb file to be clicked on that would to the rest of the 
install automatically, like some executable script that can be run via a 
file navigation system and not need to be run in terminal?


HP now needs to have the drivers for its printers run the "make" 
utilities so that Ubuntu can use them.  But all you have to do is run 
the .run script and the rest is done for you.  I do not remember that 
was the case when I used Ubuntu 9.x 64-bit., or when I first used 10.04, 
but now it does.  I just wish we had a better driver for the graphics 
printing.


> ________________________________
> From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> To: marketing@libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 15:35:20
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS
> Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)
>
> On 05/12/2011 10:14 AM, C. Olofson wrote:
> > Hi Marc, Tom;
> >
> > I don't mean to muddy the waters unnecessarily but, in the case of *BSD,
> > "support" would be more likely coming from their end and not TDF's.  Also:
> >
> >     * there are a lot of unrelated *BSD's (e.g. Free-, Open- and netBSD)
> >     * *BSD apps aren't (normally) distributed as pre-compiled packages
> >       but as source to compile
> >     * once an app is "in the ports," it (normally) has a maintainer
> >       (IOW, is supported)
> >     * checking w/those projects will show whether LibO is supported
> >
> > So, for example, to see whether an app is supported by FreeBSD, I
> >
> >     * go to their central applications site: http://www.freshports.org
> >     * search on LibreOffice
> >     * find that 3.2.2 is the current ver and the "maintainer" is
> >       Baptiste Daroussin
> >
> > I'm not as familiar with the other *BSD's but, if you want, I'll poke around to
> > establish whether they are maintaining LibO and at what version.
> >
> > hth,
> > -Craig
> So what would you add to this sample document that would reflect BSD, or should
> it be kept the same?
>
> http://libreoffice-na.us/dvd-insert-mine-sample.pdf
>
> This is a sample of some of the text needed for an insert for the inside of the
> DVD case for our distribution DVD of LibreOffice.  We have a case cover, a
> label, and now we are working on an inserted document for that case.
>
> I/we want to keep it simple to use and read.  It is going to be read by home and
> office users, tech people and general computer users.  So it must be easy to
> read and understand by the user that has the least computer skills, who at least
> knows how to install their own software and use a web browser.
>
> We could make another document that is more tech oriented, and include that as
> well, but it will need some "warning label" stating that this is for those who
> need more technical information.  BSD installation may be something that would
> be in such a technical document, if someone knows how to do such an install.
>
>
> > On 05/12/2011 04:05 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > > Le 2011-05-12 06:45, Tom Davies a écrit :
> > > > Hi :)
> > > >
> > > > Hah, i can't find it in the downloads drop-down any-more.  I'm sure it was
> > > > there
> > > > quite recently.  There was documentation on how to install LibreOffice in
> Bsd
> > > > somewhere in documentation.  Hopefully i might get time later to try to find
> > > > it.  Note that no other Office Suite works on Bsd afaik so it would be quite
> > > > sweet to acknowledge it.
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :)
> > > You may want to check on the dev list. If Bsd is officially supported, then we
> > > will make adjustments to our marketing materials. It would be nice if it were
> > > supported. AFAIK, there was talk of it on the dev list and some people got it to
> > > work, but then the threads just died out. Maybe there were problems with getting
> > > committed devs for BSD.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Marc
>
>
>
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