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On 05/12/2011 10:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)

Bsd tends (or was in the past) far to techie for most people so leaving it off
our marketing materials would probably make no difference to most people.  Lets
face it, mostly people will only notice the "Windows" part and ignore the rest.

It's even possible that seeing mention of the other operating systems, such as
Mac, might scare them off.  Many computer shops only claim to be able to help
Windows users but will often be happy to fix linux problems at a discount.  They
avoid mentioning that in their literature and advertising because it has been
found to scare off Windows users.  Windows has a serious malware problems so
people get scared easily.
That is why there will be a Windows-Only version as well, for those people we know that will only want or need to have a Windows version.

Malware issues - well that it why I have about 1/4 of my CPU power on my Vista laptop running security software. Sometimes I use it to clean other people's drives by plugging in their drives a external ones. I shocked an insurance guy when his tried to infect mine but could not and there were over 1,000 security issues on his laptop's drive. It was much easier to do it that way than do all the work to get the software to work on his badly infected laptop.

That is one reason I now us Ubuntu as my default desktop computer and my laptop is now dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu.

People that use Bsd will mostly be used to the idea that if something works in
linux then the source code can probably be acquired easily and probably compiled
in Bsd fairly easily.

So, i am quite happy with the idea of leaving Bsd off the marketing materials
but one day it would be nice if we could be open and proud of what our devs&
people such as Baptiste Daroussin have achieved.

Regards from
Tom :)

Never used BSD before, but someone told me that Mac used BSD as the starting point for OSX.

Well, it would be nice to not have to deal with it if we do not need to deal with it.

The less there is on the printed paperwork for people to deal with, the easier it could be do use. I just wish that Linux would be easier to install software, like Windows with their .exe files. Sometimes the .deb files are easy, but when you need to use the terminal for the install, like LibreOffice needs to, it is one more issue for people to not want to switch from Windows to Linux.

I wonder if there would be an easier way for Linux to be installed? Include a single deb file to be clicked on that would to the rest of the install automatically, like some executable script that can be run via a file navigation system and not need to be run in terminal?

HP now needs to have the drivers for its printers run the "make" utilities so that Ubuntu can use them. But all you have to do is run the .run script and the rest is done for you. I do not remember that was the case when I used Ubuntu 9.x 64-bit., or when I first used 10.04, but now it does. I just wish we had a better driver for the graphics printing.

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On 05/12/2011 10:14 AM, C. Olofson wrote:
Hi Marc, Tom;

I don't mean to muddy the waters unnecessarily but, in the case of *BSD,
"support" would be more likely coming from their end and not TDF's.  Also:

    * there are a lot of unrelated *BSD's (e.g. Free-, Open- and netBSD)
    * *BSD apps aren't (normally) distributed as pre-compiled packages
      but as source to compile
    * once an app is "in the ports," it (normally) has a maintainer
      (IOW, is supported)
    * checking w/those projects will show whether LibO is supported

So, for example, to see whether an app is supported by FreeBSD, I

    * go to their central applications site:
    * search on LibreOffice
    * find that 3.2.2 is the current ver and the "maintainer" is
      Baptiste Daroussin

I'm not as familiar with the other *BSD's but, if you want, I'll poke around to
establish whether they are maintaining LibO and at what version.


So what would you add to this sample document that would reflect BSD, or should
it be kept the same?

This is a sample of some of the text needed for an insert for the inside of the
DVD case for our distribution DVD of LibreOffice.  We have a case cover, a
label, and now we are working on an inserted document for that case.

I/we want to keep it simple to use and read.  It is going to be read by home and
office users, tech people and general computer users.  So it must be easy to
read and understand by the user that has the least computer skills, who at least
knows how to install their own software and use a web browser.

We could make another document that is more tech oriented, and include that as
well, but it will need some "warning label" stating that this is for those who
need more technical information.  BSD installation may be something that would
be in such a technical document, if someone knows how to do such an install.

On 05/12/2011 04:05 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2011-05-12 06:45, Tom Davies a écrit :
Hi :)

Hah, i can't find it in the downloads drop-down any-more.  I'm sure it was
quite recently.  There was documentation on how to install LibreOffice in
somewhere in documentation.  Hopefully i might get time later to try to find
it.  Note that no other Office Suite works on Bsd afaik so it would be quite
sweet to acknowledge it.
Regards from
Tom :)

You may want to check on the dev list. If Bsd is officially supported, then we
will make adjustments to our marketing materials. It would be nice if it were
supported. AFAIK, there was talk of it on the dev list and some people got it to
work, but then the threads just died out. Maybe there were problems with getting
committed devs for BSD.



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