[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Piwik statistics → Privacy Policy needs an update

Grrr i wish i had read this email first.  It does make a big difference and 
deals with the points i was mostly worried about (still just minor pedantic 
points tho!).  My re-write would be minor again

"
To improve the structure and the data we offer on our website, we use
the OpenSource web analysis software Piwik.  Our evaluations will be based on 
summary or averaged information amalgamated from the large numbers of people 
visiting the website.  The data provided by Piwik won't be matched with any 
individual's data from other sources, and we won't share the data provided by 
Piwik with third parties (except, perhaps, summary information such as total 
number of hits).

Data collected by Piwik includes IP, time and duration of the visit, what pages 
are visited, used browser and add-ons/plugins, search-engines and referrer. 
While Piwik does use a "cookie" to distinguish between individual visitors, the 
collected data doesn't allow to identify individuals.

"

I think the re-structuring of those 2 paragraphs made it much more 
understandable even without my changes.
Regards from
Tom :)



________________________________
From: Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Cc: website@libreoffice.org; discuss@de.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 18:00:35
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Piwik statistics → Privacy Policy needs 
an update

Hi Christian,

thanks a lot for that! May I move some of the text snippets upwards?

Am Dienstag, den 21.12.2010, 17:33 +0100 schrieb Christian Lohmaier:
> Hi *,
>
> as the request did only result in <silence>, here's my proposal:
> (cc german list, as it also contains german text)

<speaking_up>

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Christian Lohmaier
> <lohmaier+ooofuture@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > piwik (web analytics tool - details here http://piwik.org/) will be
> > used for the website(s) the TDF runs to get some usage statistics.
> > Thus the privacy policy needs some love regarding this topic.
>
> This is meant to replace the "Use of Cookies" section:
> #######
> Use of Piwik
> On our website, we use the open source web analysis software Piwik.
> Data collected by Piwik includes IP, time and duration of the visit,
> what pages are visited, used browser and plugins, search-engines and
> referrer.
> While Piwik uses a cookie to distinguish between individual visitors,
> the collected data doesn't allow to identify individuals.
> The collected data will only be used to improve the website -
> especially that data won't be matched with data from other sources,
> and we won't share the collected data with third parties.
> We'll only use anoymized, collective analysis provided by Piwik for
> our evaluation.

Okay, I slightly changed the text ... I put the stuff to the top that
most people might understand easily (we don't do any harm...). The more
detailed stuff is located in the second paragraph.

Since I've also adapted the wording a bit (moving sentences only would
have caused the text to be funny), could you please make sure that it
still conveys the required information? If, and only if, you think this
might be an improvement.

----
Use of Web Analysis Software

To improve the structure and the data we offer on our website, we use
the open-source web analysis software Piwik. Only anonymized and
collective information will be used for our evaluation. The data
provided by Piwik won't be matched with any data from other sources, and
we won't share the data provided by Piwik with third parties.

Data collected by Piwik includes IP, time and duration of the visit,
what pages are visited, used browser and add-ons/plugins, search-engines
and referrer. While Piwik uses a "cookie" to distinguish between
individual visitors, the collected data doesn't allow to identify
individuals.
----

Some more questions:
      * Who will have access to the data (is there any restriction)? Can
        we make sure that nobody uses the data for other purposes?
      * Is this the only data we "track". For example, we might also use
        download statistics - also anonymized, but maybe worth to
        mention if we do this for Piwik.

[German Version Skipped]

> so comment and suggest better wordings please :-)

Thanks a lot, Christian! Both for the text and "making the web work" ;-)

Cheers,
Christoph


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