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Hi John, all

great to have you here!

I didn't manage to comment all the mails that I'd like to reply (not even the mails I think they need a reply to avoid IMHO wrong expectations and directions of actions), but I want to start with yours.

Perhaps you don't know me, having been one of the most active members in the OOo Art Project, (as well on the mailing list as in the wiki and on our website), I'd like to add some comments on the competition idea and the way of possible interaction between LibreOffice and Linux distributions in art and design.

John Baer schrieb:
Hello everyone,

I added LibreOffice Artwork to Artwork Team project board ( ) and created a draft specification to
provide guidance to our team ( ).

Thank you for this work!

There are some points that might need a comment (I don't understand what "sponsor" means here, David has contacted you, but can't speak on behalf of LibO/TDF), but it's great that we can work together on the same visuals.

Back in OOo times (sounds strange ;-)) I had to accept, that most of the Linux distros modified the most graphical elements in OOo to fit their visual design and branding language. Even if I understood, that Ubuntu prefers a brown splash screen over a blue one, this didn't support in his branding.

With a common effort between LibreOffice and the different distributions chances become much higher to avoid major modifications to the application's visual impression at the distro side - especially if we start working together at a time, where the LibreOffice branding hasn't been defined in details.

Based on what I wrote above, I don't think that a competition at this time is the best way to collaborate.

We have to define the main goals of our branding, target groups we want to address, rules about consistent and variable elements and so on.

Our team did agree on a roadmap leaving proposals, discussion and decision on the final branding to the release of LibreOffice 3.5, leaving enough time for preparing all the necessary stuff.

Until the release of LibreOffice 3.3 at least a few of us (I can't force anybody to have the same priorities as myself) will focus on providing marketing material and artwork based on the present "initial design" - so I can't follow this topic with as much attention as it deserves...

An outstanding issue is where submissions will be posted. Although your wiki
may be used for this purpose, I would like to suggest an alternative that
has work well for us.

The alternative is Flickr. Guest accounts are free and this site is tailored
for this purpose. A moderated community can be built to group submissions to
a project.

My personal opinion on Flickr is not that positive (I don't like Yahoo and the advertisements) - and as I gave up my yahoo account some years ago I would have to create a new one.

But I can live with that if I'm the only one and the positive aspects of using Flickr are important.

I don't know about the possibilities we get with Drupal - perhaps this would allow us to keep the content on our pages and cause people to join our community instead of joining another...

This relieves the wiki of the image storage burden permitting it to be used
for supporting documentation.

Our wiki is not only dedicated to documentation - it is our working area in most community tasks (including design and artwork).

I can set this up if desired.

Thanks for this proposal, but let's hear some more opinions.

Best regards


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