Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition

Hi John, all

great to have you here!

I didn't manage to comment all the mails that I'd like to reply (not 
even the mails I think they need a reply to avoid IMHO wrong 
expectations and directions of actions), but I want to start with yours.

Perhaps you don't know me, having been one of the most active members in 
the OOo Art Project, (as well on the mailing list as in the wiki and on 
our website), I'd like to add some comments on the competition idea and 
the way of possible interaction between LibreOffice and Linux 
distributions in art and design.

John Baer schrieb:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I added LibreOffice Artwork to Artwork Team project board (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks ) and created a draft specification to
> provide guidance to our team (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-5 ).

Thank you for this work!

There are some points that might need a comment (I don't understand what 
"sponsor" means here, David has contacted you, but can't speak on behalf 
of LibO/TDF), but it's great that we can work together on the same visuals.

Back in OOo times (sounds strange ;-)) I had to accept, that most of the 
Linux distros modified the most graphical elements in OOo to fit their 
visual design and branding language. Even if I understood, that Ubuntu 
prefers a brown splash screen over a blue one, this didn't support 
OpenOffice.org in his branding.

With a common effort between LibreOffice and the different distributions 
chances become much higher to avoid major modifications to the 
application's visual impression at the distro side - especially if we 
start working together at a time, where the LibreOffice branding hasn't 
been defined in details.

Based on what I wrote above, I don't think that a competition at this 
time is the best way to collaborate.

We have to define the main goals of our branding, target groups we want 
to address, rules about consistent and variable elements and so on.

Our team did agree on a roadmap leaving proposals, discussion and 
decision on the final branding to the release of LibreOffice 3.5, 
leaving enough time for preparing all the necessary stuff.
(http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg00848.html)

Until the release of LibreOffice 3.3 at least a few of us (I can't force 
anybody to have the same priorities as myself) will focus on providing 
marketing material and artwork based on the present "initial design" - 
so I can't follow this topic with as much attention as it deserves...

> An outstanding issue is where submissions will be posted. Although your wiki
> may be used for this purpose, I would like to suggest an alternative that
> has work well for us.
>
> The alternative is Flickr. Guest accounts are free and this site is tailored
> for this purpose. A moderated community can be built to group submissions to
> a project.

My personal opinion on Flickr is not that positive (I don't like Yahoo 
and the advertisements) - and as I gave up my yahoo account some years 
ago I would have to create a new one.

But I can live with that if I'm the only one and the positive aspects of 
using Flickr are important.

I don't know about the possibilities we get with Drupal - perhaps this 
would allow us to keep the content on our pages and cause people to join 
our community instead of joining another...
> This relieves the wiki of the image storage burden permitting it to be used
> for supporting documentation.

Our wiki is not only dedicated to documentation - it is our working area 
in most community tasks (including design and artwork).
> I can set this up if desired.

Thanks for this proposal, but let's hear some more opinions.

Best regards

Bernhard

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