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Le 2010-10-17 07:13, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-10-16 18:26, j.martin.pedersen a écrit :

Hi Martin

Welcome to the marketing list and many thanks for your input. The
purpose of the marketing list is to discuss the various approaches to
marketing the "LibreOffice" brand. Your input is exaclty the type of
input that I am particularly interested in hearing and documenting. LibO
needs to take stock of missing functionalities that would make it a more
viable tool in the academic arenas.

I have often heard from people of the power of LibO (OpenOffice)
however, the lacking tools for academia have made it such that many (in
academia) who have tried it have had to abandon LibO for lack of tools
in particular areas.

So, I hope to make a list of these tools that are necessary to market
LibO as a possible tool for our academic colleagues and hope that a dev
(or many devs) will show interest in expanding these tools through
whatever means possible either by plugin (obviously the preferred
choice) or LibO coded addition (permanently coded into LibO -- not
likely to happen)

So, onto your list:

Hi list,

I have just subscribed because of a thread on the discuss list about
bibliographic software for LO, because I am interested in academic use
of Free Software, which for most people require being able to handle
existing bibliographic databases. (Currently I am on the fringe of
academia, doing bits of precarious research, funding application writing
and teaching, having finished a PhD in February titled "Property,
Commoning and the Politics of Free Software".)

There is a wealth of options, somehow. is very
interesting. Moving to the browser level makes a lot of sense for
researchers - that's where you need it most of the time (auto-adding
PDFs, URIs etc.) and if connected to ISBN databases it can make life a
lot easier.

I will be looking for comment on those using Zotero to see if this is a
viable and functional plugin. I have tried Zotero, found it quite
complete, however, not being involved in any academic research could not
evaluate it in a "real time" situation. A friend of mine in Music
Therapy research took a look at it and found it too complex to adopt.
She reverted back to MSOffice on her MacBook. This is the only feedback
I got from her as she said that she did not have enough time to research
the plugin due to the time frame of her 1.5 project deadline.

We will need more feedback from people using Zotero. I found it to be
quite promising.

But Bibus:
- last update in 2009!?!?

and: - Last updated in 2008!?!

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This does not inspire confidence :)

I will try to get back on the marketing list about these and
development. I will try to contact them about their project's status at
the moment. My feeling are that if they have not been worked on for such
a long period of time, then they have most likely been abandoned and the
project have been left open for some other groups adoption. I am sure
someone will comment if they are aware of these projects.

My questions are:

What happened to the OOo Bibliography project?

And what are the many competing visions for a bibliographical system
that exist across platforms?

Finally, how can the Free Software world create a bibliographic system
that integrates all the best of existing systems in a cross-platform GUI
that is compatible with the dominant systems (Endnote etc.) and which
integrates with OOo, LO, and even that M$ Office thing and of course
Firefox or Zotero?

I believe our concern here is with LibO integration only. But this is
open for comments.

There should be a basis for a project with social and computing science
departments. The time is right for institutions to explore cuts in their
licensing costs. Always look on the bright side...



PS: was suggested on that threat and that is a
very interesting looking project, but it is not free, only as in beer.

Thanks. I visited the site and, indeed, they do look promising and seem
quite active. We will need some feedback on people using their product
with LibO. It may integrate well with OpenOffice, but we will have to
gauge if LibO integration is done smoothly.

We may have to start a Wiki page on LibO Education Academia to track
these options.

Maybe a comment from Drew or Florian?


I will start a new discussion thread called "LibO in Academia" which is more descriptive for this discussion. Could everyone answer on that discussion thread?



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