Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Mistakes in source strings

Hi all,

FWIW as a translator I'm always in favour of fixing mistakes in the 
source strings even if it creates extra work for myself. That's because 
trying to figure out whether some unusual spelling or choice of words is 
intentional or not is work too. Sometimes a lot more work than just 
straightforward translation.

The extra work only happens if the string was translated previously. For 
example, Help is currently 47% translated into Finnish, so it's more 
likely than not that a change in a Help string will not cause any extra 
work for Finnish translators (and might actually save some in the 
future).

It would be better, of course, if mistakes could be caught earlier. And 
the visual diff feature in Weblate, which I mentioned on this list a 
while ago, would make updating the translation quicker by showing the 
change in the source string and the previous translation. If we had that 
feature working, often the previous translation could be used with just 
two clicks, if there's e.g. just some minor punctuation change in the 
source string.

Tuomas

Andras Timar kirjoitti 20.9.2022 22:05:
> Hi Annabelle,
>
> I think you are right, the rules are laid down in UX Guidelines, cf.
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/UIWriting
> However, LibreOffice is a huge project and you cannot expect that every 
> UI
> string (some were added 20+ years ago) complies. I'm not a big fan of
> cosmetic changes, because they create work for translators. But I'm not 
> in
> charge and would not oppose such patches from contributors.
>
> Best regards,
> Andras
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:22 PM Annabelle Wübbelsmann 
> <translowl@web.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andras,
> >
> > thank you for your answer.
> >
> > Can you tell me, why the word "From" have a capitalised initial 
> > letter?
> > Usually "from" is written with a lowercase initial letter.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Annabelle Wübbelsmann
> >
> > Member of the German translation team
> > Andras Timar:
> > > Hello Annabelle,
> > >
> > > "Macro From" is correct, i.e. the library where the macro comes from.
> > >
> > > You are right about the second issue, LibreOffice vs. %PRODUCTNAME, and
> > it
> > > has been already fixed in later versions. Usually we do not backport
> > > English string fixes for minor issues like this, in order not to break
> > > existing translations.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Andras
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 7:02 PM Annabelle Wübbelsmann <translowl@web.de>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I think I found two mistakes in Weblate source strings.
> > >>
> > >> I think in the following string the word "from" is misspelled. Should it
> > >> be "form"?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-7-3/textsbasicpython/de/?checksum=710756571ee1eec0
> > >>
> > >> In the following string the word "LibreOffice" should be replaced with
> > >> "%PRODUCTNAME" as it is at the beginning of the string.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-7-3/textsbasicpython/de/?checksum=82cc7f9bc84cdac0
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Regards
> > >> Annabelle
> > >>
> > >> Member of the German translation team
> > >>
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