Re: [libreoffice-l10n] date format strings en special tags: translatable or not?

Hi Eike,

Thank you very much for this explanation.

Best regards.
JBF

Le 05/08/2016 à 13:18, Eike Rathke a écrit :
> Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>
> On Friday, 2016-07-29 11:32:56 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
>
> > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/fr/libo_help/translate/swriter/01.po#unit=29751036
> > > Jean-Baptiste Faure <jbfaure@libreoffice.org
> > > <mailto:jbfaure@libreoffice.org>> schrieb am Do., 28.07.2016, 19:01:
> > >
> > >     In strings like KBqQD in the Help there is a string describing a date
> > >     format DD/MM/YY. As it is a special tag for exporting document in html
> > >     format, I am not sure if this string must be translated. It is
> > >     translated in the current French Help but Pootle says there is an
> > >     XML error.
>
> Awkward situation.. ;-)
> So,
> * the XML error probably is because <SDFIELD> is not a declared XML
>   element, and should not because it is plain help text
>   * as such probably the <> need to be escaped like in &lt;SDFIELD&gt;
> * the DD/MM/YY can be translated for the locales that do use the legacy
>   translated number format code keywords, e.g. French and German
>   * however, the actual code is tied to the two numbers preceding it,
>     and using translated codes with the same number won't work
> * the original (?) English example already messed things up as it
>   combines a German de-DE locale 1031 with English keywords and DMY
>   order and uses the ',' comma decimal separator in the number
>   35843,4239988426
>   * the SDVAL value never uses localized separators
>   * for English en-US that should had been
>     SDVAL="35843.4239988426" SDNUM="1033;1033;MM/DD/YY"
> * for German de-DE it would be
>   SDVAL="35843.4239988426" SDNUM="1031;1031;TT.MM.JJ"
> * for French fr-FR it would be
>   SDVAL="35843.4239988426" SDNUM="1036;1036;JJ/MM/AA"
>
> Furthermore, the numbers 1031 or 1033 and the like vary with the
> system/office locale (first number) and the actual locale of the current
> field (second number), so having a German de-DE field in an otherwise
> English en-US locale actually is
> sdval="42587.5455971765" sdnum="1033;1031;TT.MM.JJ"
>
> You see, translating this is a mess ;-)
>
> I suggest to give a correct (!) English en-US example in all languages
> and just mention that for other locales the representation may be
> different. After all, it's an implementation detail of internal
> representation for intra-data-exchange.
>
>   Eike


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