Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu

09/04/2014 10:21, sgrìobh Rene Engelhard:
> Ignoring the fact (or having no knowledge of the obvious, even stated 
> by themselves) that Ubuntu is based on Debian doesn't help in either 
> case, either. Especially as Bjoern said they "just" hip what we (== 
> Debian) ship. 
Many localizers are a bit like Sid the Sloth... "we see a po file, we 
translate it". It's one of the greatest fallacies of open source 
localization projects that translator = localizer = developer. Most 
'just want to translate into their language' to get a certain program in 
their language.

All these things may be obvious to developers who have been doing this 
for a long time but there's no 'map' out there for 'just localizers' to 
explain all these pitfalls (like a noob localizer has any clue about the 
LO/OO rift and what the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu and 
Canonical is; that's like me assuming you know that lenition is 
*obviously* blocked after a historical but no longer visible dental) and 
that leads to a great amount of wasted translation work gathering mould 
in the dark corners of the web.

Assuming that localizers should (or will) on the whole learn about these 
things falls under 'nice but probably not going to happen' so anyone who 
wants these localizations to work effectively ought to consider 
'translators' and not 'developers' as the target audience when composing 
localization documentation. Translators are not stupid or don't care 
(why else would we be translating for free otherwise...) but if their 
primary skill was development stuff, they'd be developers, not 
translators. Would be a good thing if we accepted that different folk 
have different strengths and weaknesses and to try and make those work 
together smoothly.

> >   
> > "it's already there" (ok, not in a released, stable one, but thatwon't happen
> > for some months to come)
Thank you

Michael

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