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Hi Mihkel, all,
Le 03/10/2013 12:11, Mihkel Tõnnov a écrit :

2013/10/3 Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild <>

Dear all,

I am a member of the Free Software Foundation Europe, and I am writing
this e-mail because I wanted to ask an Estonian governmental institution
to recommend LibreOffice to their visitors instead of an outdated
version of OpenOffice. I would happily point them to the Estonian
version of the LibreOffice site, which appears to be
<>, which redirects to <>.

I am the Estonian translator of LibreOffice and (at least in theory)
manager of The redirect was my decision, because I
don't have time to maintain myself and no volunteers
have stepped in to do it either. So I saw redirecting it to at least gets updated) as a reasonable solution
until I or someone
else would have time to maintain

However, the content on that site has raised some concerns in me: The
site advertises LibreOffice mainly as "gratis" (tasuta) instead of
"free" (vaba) as in free speech; the site claims that either the site's
or the software's copyright belongs to the Free Software Foundation
("Autoriõigus © 2007, Free Software Foundation, Inc." in the footer),
which I seriously doubt; and the site also includes Facebook social
plug-in, which raises non-free JavaScript and privacy issues.

I am aware of this (except for the FB plugin issues, which I hadn't thought
about until now), thanks to Marc Paré, who wrote to me about it on June 19,
2012. I sent a message to the site maintainers after that, asking them to
fix these issues, but I never got a reply and they haven't corrected their
mistakes either.

I am fairly sure that The Document Foundation does not wish to advertise
LibreOffice as "gratis" instead of "free", and it seems to me that many
of the er… more unique aspects of <> are likely not
condoned by The Document Foundation.

I agree.

 I am afraid that in its current state I cannot recommend the Estonian
site in good conscience, and unfortunately there seems to be no
Estonian download page listing more than one platform and version of
the software on <>, and thus a speedy resolution of the
aforementioned issues would be very welcome.

There is, but the text there is seriously
outdated by now.

Given the (long-lasting) problems with, I propose that I end
the redirect, so that it will no longer appear as if TDF approves of the
content of; and instead make a very
low-content site where pretty much only the download page is visible and
semi-regularly updated. However, since does have useful info
in Estonian for users, I would still like to provide a link to it somewhere
on, although this time with a disclaimer.

Would that resolve a part of the problem here?

On a TDF point of view I think so, even if don't use the
official logo and, by that, show that they are not affiliated, I think
the redirect is confusing. So even displaying low-content on the
Estonian official website would be better and may appeal some volunteers
to step in and add content to it.

Kind regards

Sophie Gautier <>
Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder
The Document Foundation

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