Re: User noise.

Sir,

thanks, for your clear exposition and direct, insightsful and relevant 
comments. As you will see from my initial posting , I suspected that as 
one user proposing possibly atypical improvements  my comments would and 
should be perceived as noise.

It seems, however  that  priorities are lacking,except if your aim is to 
maximize the number of active contributors, rather than to create the 
most efficient programs

I maintain my view that colours and signage is thoroughly trivial, in 
the sense that as long as the typeface is visible they can be safely 
ignored in favour  of content.

I also  accept that codingskills may be lacking in order to rectify my 
possibly irrelevant pet gripes (although they are actually hindering my 
dailty work).

Yes, as with other open software. lots of voluntary work is put in, only 
occasionally supported by small donations  from some such as myself,

However, not setting overriding priorities and selecting among them, 
while maintaning that superfluous voluntary work through fiddling with 
less useful aspects is valuable,  is key to unsucessful strategies.

(I am troroughly unqualified as a progarmmer since my superficial 
experienxce is from building a machine in 1960 to deal with Boolean 
expressions + learning "Algol" and reading Shannon, Wiener and Minsky at 
university, but I do have some experience in settting out and converting 
strategic aims into action).

Good luck with focussing on OO improvements , I will cease to distract 
you with usage comments !

yours

ph.

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Den 2019-12-14 06:55, skrev Kaganski Mike:
> Dear Paul,
>
> 12 дек. 2019 г. 17:30 пользователь paul hofseth <paul@hofseth.co> 
> написал:
>
> Sirs,
>
> please do not waste scarce coding resources on thoroughly trivial
> matters like colours and signage, but rather on making the programs 
> more
> practical to use -  such as for instance having the choice of typeface
> as a sdeparate item, not hidden inside the multiple format choices.
> Risking ostracism fro monotounous suggestions, I repeat my wish for
> sequential views of single pages with as little jumbling as possible of
> text and illsustrations when proofreading long documents
>
> Please do not waste scarce coding resources on thoroughly trivial
> matters like telling others what to do, but rather on making the 
> programs more
> practical to use!
>
> Why do I write this rather harsh statement? Not in the hope that you
> would start doing what I wrote, but to show you one important aspect
> that you seem to overlook. What would you do if you actually be denied
> of a way to contribute by expressing your opinions and wishes, and
> demanded to do something entirely different for the project? For most,
> such requirement would not mean they started contributing differently;
> that would mean they stopped contributing at all. Most people here
> contribute for one of two reasons: either being paid for the work by
> their employers/customers, or doing things they *can* for own
> enjoyment. Not everyone here likes or is able to do what you'd want
> them to do to fix your pet bug; and your expectation that if you deny
> someone of doing what *you* consider "trivial" would free the
> resources for a different task, are just plain wrong: instead of
> improving the areas you are interested in, we would simply loose those
> who love and able to contribute in areas *others* are interested in,
> nothing else.
>
> By the way, I actually deem the importance of *your* contriburion
> (expressing your opinion about LibreOffice and its future, feeling for
> it, and proposing something) wery high. So please don't take the
> initial statement seriously, but just as a way to illustrate my point.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mike Kaganski