Re: We'd like to continue the production of the 32-bit deb packages

Escuelas Linux 6.5 with LibreOffice 6.3, both 32 and 64-bit, has been
released, as well as the second version of our Escuelas Linux Developer
Pack.

https://sourceforge.net/p/escuelaslinux/blog/2019/08/announcing-escuelas-linux-65/
and
https://sourceforge.net/p/escuelaslinux/blog/2019/08/escuelas-linux-developer-pack-20-is-here/

Again, many thanks to all the folks that helped us to reach this goal. 😄

El vie., 16 ago. 2019 a las 13:43, dreamnext@gmail.com (<dreamnext@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> Finally sort of solved.
>
> We were not able to get ‘make’ without cppunit errors. Tried numerous
> times on VMs with Escuelas Linux and Bodhi Linux (both based on Ubuntu
> 18.04) and on Debian 10 (on a VM and on a schroot environment).
>
> What we did if after a ‘make’ with errors, we had to ran ‘make
> build-nocheck’ to be able to bypass those errors on a Debian 10 schroot
> environment. This time, the required debs files were produced. However,
> when installing those debs and trying to run LibreOffice on Escuelas Linux
> (the main target distribution) it does not work, as it complains about a
> glibc mismatch version. So, it seems that the generated deb files are not
> distribution-independent as the ones that were previously released by The
> Document Foundation.
>
> Under these circumstances, we then proceeded to create the deb files
> inside a Escuelas Linux VM.
>
> In Escuelas Linux (and I guess on any Ubuntu 18.04 system) the command
>
> sudo apt-get build-dep libreoffice
>
> does not install all the required packages to pass the autogen.sh phase,
> as we found to be the case in Debian 10. It complains about missing KF5
> stuff, so we installed these (some packages might not be necessary, but at
> least this worked)
>
>
> sudo apt-get install \
>
>  libkf5archive-dev libkf5bookmarks-dev libkf5coreaddons-dev libkf5config-dev \
>  libkf5configwidgets-dev libkf5dbusaddons-dev libkf5kio-dev libkf5widgetsaddons-dev \
>  libkf5notifyconfig-dev libkf5newstuff-dev libkf5xmlgui-dev libkf5declarative-dev \
>  libkf5notifications-dev libkf5guiaddons-dev libkf5textwidgets-dev libkf5iconthemes-dev \
>  kdoctools-dev libkf5crash-dev libkf5filemetadata-dev extra-cmake-modules \
>  libsm-dev cmake qtdeclarative5-dev kde-runtime kinit  kio \
>  qml-module-qtquick-controls
>
> We also had to install qt5-default and libqt5x11extras5-dev.
>
> Just to be sure, we also installed IBM Java, as it is the one used in
> Escuelas Linux. Other Java environments have an ugly effect specifically on
> LibreOffice 32-bit, as we reported at the time on our blog:
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/escuelaslinux/blog/2019/03/how-to-fix-libreoffice-startup-crashes-in-escuelas-linux-62-32-bit/
>
> However, switching our distribution to IBM Java solved those issues in a
> better way than passing stack_guard_gap=1.
>
> Our autogen.input is:
>
> *--with-distro=LibreOfficeLinux**--disable-gstreamer-0-10**--with-lang=es**--with-myspell-dicts**--enable-release-build**--with-package-format=deb**--disable-dependency-tracking**--with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/**ibm-java90-jdk-i386**/*
>
> Again, after we got a ‘make’ with errors, we had to ran ‘make
> build-nocheck’ to be able to bypass those. The deb files were produced and
> seem to be working fine when installed on Escuelas Linux.
>
> As the resulting .deb files does not seem to be distribution independent,
> we may not be offering then to download in our SourceForge site as we
> planned. If as time passes somebody knows how to solve the make errors we
> get, and how to release distro-independent deb packages, we might then
> offer LibreOffice 32-bit binary deb builts available for download, for
> parties that might be still interested on them.
>
> For now, I’m happy to announce that our upcoming Escuelas Linux version
> 6.5, will include, among other things, LibreOffice 6.3.0.4 in both of our
> editions, 32-bit and 64-bit.
>
> Many thanks to all the folks that helped us in this thread. I owe you a
> big beer ;-)
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/escuelaslinux/
>
> https://www.facebook.com/escuelas.linux
>
>
>
> El vie., 26 jul. 2019 a las 10:01, dreamnext@gmail.com (<
> dreamnext@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
> > Hi! Greetings from the Escuelas Linux team. We are small Linux
> > distribution that can be downloaded from
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/escuelaslinux/.
> > Some more references about our activity can be found by doing an Internet
> > search, or on own Facebook account, escuelas.linux
> >
> > We still provide a 32-bit edition of our distro, because among our users
> > there are a lot of low-income public schools, in which are still in use old
> > computers with about 512 MB to a 1 GB of RAM. That amount of RAM would make
> > running a Linux 64-bit system awfully slow, so we have to accommodate to
> > the needs and possibilities of what is available in poor areas, those in
> > which even having an old computer is still somehow a luxury.
> >
> > We perfectly understand that TDF releasing 32-bit Linux LibreOffice
> > packages was not worth anymore, given the small amount of downloads.
> > Certainly some of those downloads were made by us, as we only required one
> > download of a given LibreOffice version to have it installed in our distro
> > and be used in hundreds of computers. A lot of those computers could not
> > even be traceable, since there are no Internet connection in poor or remote
> > schools. But we believe that even if we reported who and where are those
> > schools, that would be still a small amount to be worth the effort and
> > resources required to match the bigger amounts of downloads that seems to
> > be receiving the LibreOffice 32-bit Windows counterpart.
> >
> > Given that TDF ended the provision of Linux 32-bit distribution neutral
> > binaries, but not the 32-bit compatibility, we would like to step up to
> > produce by ourselves the 32-bit distribution neutral deb packages from
> > LibreOffice 6.3 and up. We are not aware of other distros or volunteers
> > releasing the most recent LibreOffice version to date (6.3) as 32-bit
> > distribution independent binaries.
> >
> > Recently, the official LibreOffice Blog published instructions about how
> > to compile LibreOffice on Linux. However, we’d like to be able not only to
> > compile LibreOffice, but we would like to learn how to be able to produce
> > by ourselves the same set of 32-bit distribution-independent deb packages
> > that were compressed as a .tar.gz, that is, the LibreOffice binaries
> > (LibreOffice_?.?.?_Linux_x86-_deb.tar.gz), the translated user interface
> > (the LibreOffice_?.?.?_Linux_x86-_deb_langpack_??.tar.gz) and the offline
> > help (LibreOffice_?.?.?_Linux_x86-_deb_helppack_??.tar.gz). As for the user
> > interface and the offline packages, our main focus would be Spanish
> > language.
> >
> > On the download section is always available the following source code
> > packages:
> > libreoffice-?.?.?.?.tar.xz
> > libreoffice-dictionaries-?.?.?.?.tar.xz
> > libreoffice-help-?.?.?.?.tar.xz
> > libreoffice-translations-?.?.?.?.tar.xz
> >
> > But, given our inexperience, we don’t know how to use this source
> > packages to produce the same set of 32-bit deb packages as were previously
> > provided by TDF. Since LibreOffice is distributed in a lot of languages, we
> > guess that the user interface and offline packages are not created manually
> > one by one by hand, some useful scripts could have been created to automate
> > as far as possible those tasks.
> >
> > So, we respectfully ask for some pointers and steps required to reach
> > this goal. In this way, we might be able to continue the production of the
> > 32-bit deb packages, freeing TDF of that burden as planned but, at the same
> > time, we could provide those packages for the parties that could be still
> > interested in them. We could not be able to support rpm-based binaries
> > though, someone else would have to step up if there's a need for that.
> >
> > Please let us know if this request of help is feasible for the
> > Developer(s) that are responsible of the LibreOffice packaging.