Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

On 05/07/19 13:14, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>    > On 05/07/19 09:16, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>    > Sorry but that completely misses the point. If it's read-only I won't
>    > even bother to learn how to use it ...
>
> The point is: 
>
> Since almost 10 years people are demanding such a feature and nothing
> happened. 
>
> All I am saying is: if a read only feature can be _easily implemented_,
> then maybe more people will start even to consider such a feature as
> being useful and the pressure to have it as «a power tool» will grow.

And all I am saying is that the feature you describe sounds to me
NOTHING LIKE reveal codes, and personally I can't see any use for it.
The Word equivalent is "show formatting" which - like I said - was
ignored by lusers and power users alike because they couldn't see any
use for it.

Do you know lilypond and frescobaldi? That can be set up so that you
work in a text editor, and the output is constantly updated in a pdf.
THAT is what I want in "reveal codes" - not something that tells me what
the formatting is, but something that *lets me work in a text window*
but shows me what the result will look like. Your macros mean I'm still
stuck in the wysiwyg windows where I *D*O*N*T* want to be, so why would
I be interested in your code?

Sorry but everybody who tries to implement a reveal-codes-alike always
seems to focus on the fact that it shows you what the formatting is.
They always miss the fact that it ALSO allows you to EDIT said
formatting, and *this* is what power users value (and as I say lusers
don't value the fact that you can see the formatting, which means that
nobody values that).
> The alternative would be «shut up and how me your code», but I can't
> provide you the feature you desire, because I know almost nothing about
> LO internals.
Well, all I know about LO internals is that Michael Meeks said it would
be a very big job to refactor everything so that a real "reveal codes"
was even possible :-(

Cheers,
Wol