minutes of ESC call ...

* Present
    + Norbert, Bjoern, David, Kohei, Markus, Miklos, Andras,
      Stephan, Christian, Eike, Michael M, Astron, Caolan,
      Michael S., Jacobo, Adam
 
* Completed Action Items
    + run certification script (Kendy)
    + review HiDPI branch for 4.2 (Kendy, Michael, Caolan)
        [ mostly pushed to 4.2 should be in 4.2.3 rc1 ]
    + poke at writer file movement bug (fdo#70422) / gerrit (Miklos)
    + Announce Gran Canaria (Bjorn)
        [ no need to book a hotel - making a group booking, poke Bjoern ]
        [ please poke the wiki if you're coming to avoid ending up on the
          street: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2014 ]
    + talk with Thorsten wrt. ODF TC representation (Michael S / Andras)
        [ Andras signing up / paying to join TC for Collabora ]
    + review / fixup OOXML Strict handling for writer (Miklos)
        [ 4.2 back-porting done too ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
        [ still trying to dig out which document is causing the grief
          limited to the writer documents ]
    + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
    + Book Gran Canaria flights (other attendees)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.2.2 announced
        + distributed at CeBIT already.
    + 4.2.3 rc1 status
        + will be ready for public announce tomorrow.
        + need to encourage marketing not to go over-the-top
          enterprise-wise for 4.2.3.
    + Android / iOS remote
        + problem with laser point patch - needs debugging.
        + not released yet.
 
* CeBIT update (Michael/Cloph)
    + lots of interested users at the booth, big noisy trade-show.
    + a number of translators & student contributors too
    + a number of training people as well.
 
* UX update (Astron)
    + decision made on the conference logo
 
* GSoC update
    + applications from March 10th -> 21st.
        + next week!
    + please consider what you are able to mentor:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + mentors registered on melange
  
* Select All issues & their handling (Bjoern / Miklos)
    + problem with selecting all in the document; but a few basic
      operations could crash writer: cut, undo, mouse wheel zoom.
       + tried to work around the latter, and found several others.
    + most of the issues already fixed by Miklos by now.
    + concern wrt. other cases: hard to know what is there ?
    + pointed out 3x bugs (Miklos)
       + one a non-regression, other 2x already fixed.
       + happy to handle them as/when.
       + be a shame to go back to avoiding fixing hard bugs.
       + we don't allow generic selections, only when the very
         first item in the document is a table.
       + if more such problems found, please do let Miklos know.
    + leave it as-is for now (Bjoern/Miklos)
       + if reverted, could cause complaints & announced as a new feature.
    + should check / update the assertion too.
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + kernel bug on the crash-testing VM
        + still pending on this :-(
    + partial new data: avoiding writer issues causing crash:
      http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/f51f03a46102333bac6a7fe06bc8538492f413a5/
    + calc is really good; down to ~5 import crashers and ~50 export crashers
    + hard to see past the duplicates - need to re-run it (Miklos)
 
* Certification update (Stephan/Bjoern)
    + ran the script; identified a new set of candidates
    + certification - does it depend on fixing issues in 2x components ? (Kohei)
        + no, but a competence and community connection test.
    + seven candidates agreed unanimously.
AI: + mail candidates to ask their permission (Stephan)
 
* Gran Canaria hack-fest (Bjoern)
    + April 24-25, 2014 (Thu-Fri)
        + add good topic ideas to the wiki page
        + cf. action items above.
 
* OOXML export validation and ODF validation (Markus)
    + have support for export validation in our testing framework
    + tinderebox maintainer need to enable validation, at least on few boxes
    + Markus will write a mail - wrt. what is necessary to have in your path.
        + enabled in calc for ODF & OOXML now
        + enabled in chart2 for OOXML
        + also available in writer - but issues need tackling in the export tests
            + a chunk is around ordering of elements (Miklos)
                + these seem to cause no practical problems really.
        + in Excel element order is important (Markus)
            + elements are removed if in the wrong order.
        + hopefully this keeps validation errors under control.
    + Cloph enabled this on 2x TDF / Linux test-boxes, so they will fail now.
    + shell wrappers for java validators - can we have them
      inside the tinderbox script ? (Thorsten)
AI:     + check them in to save time (Markus)
 
* UX dialog / wiki page to find missing dialogs (Caolan)
    + very pleased with contribution - pwrt. database dialogs
    + more help appreciated
      http://caolanm.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/findingtheblastedlastbunchofdialogs.html
 
* QA (Bjoern)
    + Unconfirmed bugs are going up, but the rate is slowing
        + up 200 from minimum; we were below 800 before.
        + help appreciated with:
            + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage
    + done an audit of writer regressions (Bjoern)
        + lots of these are really old in writer (43 are older than 4.0, while e.g. Calc has only 
11)
        + very few in calc
            + Markus was aggressive at fixing these -
              sub 10 until ~a year ago
    + getting rid of the last 2x 4.0 MAB
        + Done, and 4.0 MAB meta bug is closed.
    + Bugzilla Migration update
        + contacted Keith Packard, and got an intro to a
          new freedesktop admin.
    + if anyone wants to join the QA call - it is on Monday,
      out of the regular rhythm
 
* QA stats:
   + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +169    -134        (+35 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Kohei Yoshida       19
        Joel Madero         16
        Adolfo Jayme        10
        Jean-Baptiste Faure  7
        Maxim Monastirsky    7
        sophie               6
        m.a.riosv            5
        Jorendc              5
        Björn Michaelsen     5
        Markus Mohrhard      4
        Andras Timar         4
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 1/1 1/1
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 20/111 18/104 17/102 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58
     18%    17%    16%    17%   18%   20%   21%   24%   26%   28%   36%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 85/206 86/204 81/198 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142
     41%    42%    40%    40%    24%    24%    23%    23%    25%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 2/164 2/164 4/166 4/166 49/211 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208
     1%    1%    2%    2%    23%    24%    25%    24%    25%    25%    26%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 39/182 39/181 40/180 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + increased thanks to bibisected bugs that were not yet marked as regressions
        + Bjoern added the tag
    + 359(-2) bugs open of 2404(+15) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 102 (-1)
      Spreadsheet -  59 (+0)
     Presentation -  31 (+0)
      Libreoffice -  27 (-1)
         Database -  24 (+2)
          Crashes -  21 (+0)
          Drawing -  15 (+0)
          Borders -  14 (-2)
            BASIC -   5 (+0)
        Migration -   3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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