Minutes of ESC call

* Present: Christian, Bjoern, David, Kendy, Miklos, Moggi, Adam, Miklos, Michael S., Lionel, 
Norbert, Stephan,
  Cedric, Andras, Robinson

* Completed Action Items
    + File an MAB for install issues (Kendy)
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74934
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
        [ Astron made mockup, discussed with Cor, but not published yet ]
    + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
    + review HiDPI branch for 4.2 (Kendy, Michael, Caolan)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.1.5 RC3 status
        + released now, closed
    + 4.2.1 RC1 / final status
        + announced today, went public
    + 4.2.2 will be what was 4.2.1.2 rc2
        + did not change
        + deadline for the 4.2.2 did not change
    + future schedule - should we ~always do that ?
    + MAB:
        + 2 are more serious: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/50855
        + will try to bi-bisect it [Christian]
    + suggested change to the release plan: 4 weeks between .0 and .1, 5 weeks between .1 and .2
        + sounds good [Bjoern]
        + didn't we have even shorter .0 and .1? - ie. sounds good to me too :-) [Kendy]
        + 4.3 just before the conference, might be tricky [Bjoern]
AI      + agreed, Christian will update the wiki [Christian]
    + some patches in 4-2-1 branch
AI      + should be cherry-picked to 4-2-2 [Christian]
 
* UX update (Astron)
    + discussion about how to use sidebars in the future
    + new sifr theme: lots of people love that [Bjoern]
        + but some people would like to have it a bit lighter for dark themes
        + could we have some sifr-light for dark themes? [Bjoern]
        + based on gnome, possible to re-color on the fly [Astron]
        + some of them available only as png's [Astron]
          http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/libreoffice-4-2-new-icon-theme (see comments)
        + hi-dpi sifr version? [Astron]
        + would it make sense to exchange hicontrast with sifr-light? [Kendy]
            + concerns about accessibility [Bjoern]
            + not clear to me if the colors in the hicontrast are needed, or if the white as
              the base color is what is most needed there [Kendy]
        + no objection to sifr-light in general
 
* GSoC update (Cedric)
    + Google review starting / underway
    + please consider what you are able to mentor:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + cleanup still needed - everyone should review the page
    + we will have answer from Google on Monday
    + after that, students can reach us, by Monday evening it has to be perfect
AI  + Cedric to poke people who haven't done any action there
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + new crash-test / data (?)
        + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/f3d93434829d0e7c004679d000c30a934083b188/
    + will produce new one over the weekend
    + 15 fixes: real impact! - you can fix hundreds of documents
        + most of that can be fixed by pointer check
        + so easy stuff, go for that! :-)

* Problems in image scaling code (Markus)
    + can we use openmp there?  anybody against?
    + nobody familiar here probably :-) [Miklos]
    + gcc and visual studio both support that [Markus]
    + easy to use [Markus]
    + go for that - I guess you know most of that anyway [Kendy]
 
* ODF TC / how we handle ODF proposals (Miklos)
    + typically developers add new features, and create an ODF extension
    + ideally leads to proposal that should be sent to the ODF TC
    + includes extending RelaxNG + description
        + follow-up was handled by Thorsten previously
        + has to be done in Jira, where only some people have access
        + some follow-up questions answering
        + ie. cannot be done by every developer
        + Thorsten cannot do that any more
    + do we have people who have access these days?
        + 2 people active now: Regina [TDF], Michael S. [RedHat]
    + Michael S. will talk to Thorsten
        + Michael S. could act as a proxy at least, hopefully
 
* GNU make, upstreaming stuff (Bjoern)
    + cleaned up branches, now at:  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=gnu-make-lo.git
    + dependency caching: parsing of deps down to 0.6 seconds from 6 seconds on Linux (branch 
feature/depcache)
    + need testing on Windows - incremental builds
AI      + Kendy to try it on his tinderbox
    + sugggested to upstream:
      http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-make/2014-02/msg00055.html
 
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
    + we should start a new round
 
* QA (Robinson/Bjoern)
    + ciabot/libreoffice-bugzilla.pl bot got confused a bit with 4.2.1 :-)
       + if it hurts you, please check the git log & comment in the bug [Bjoern]
    + Bugzilla Migration update
       + Local VM for testing Bugzilla, Joel helping
    + NeedAdvice bug list
       + on the QA's radar
       + should QA CC people there?
           + there are few sitting there for months, want to have the list clean
           + remove those that are not serious, poke people on IRC for the serious ones? [Kendy]
       + Addressing bugs sitting in this category
 
         
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=385735&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&version=4.1.1.1%20rc&version=4.1.1.2%20release&version=4.1.2.1%20rc&version=4.1.2.2%20rc&version=4.1.2.3%20release&version=4.1.3.1%20rc&version=4.1.3.2%20release&version=4.1.4.1%20rc&version=4.1.4.2%20release&version=4.1.5.1%20rc&version=4.1.5.2%20rc&version=4.1.5.3%20release&version=4.1.6.1%20rc&product=LibreOffice
 
* QA stats:
 
Querying overall / top bug stats
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +193    -170        (+23 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Jorendc             18
        tommy27             16
        Kohei Yoshida       14
        Caolán McNamara     11
        mariosv             10
        Maxim Monastirsky    8
        Artur Dryomov        8
        Patrick Ohly         7
        Michael Stahl        7
        Adolfo Jayme         4
        Foss                 4
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
     17%   18%   20%   21%   24%   26%   28%   36%   33%   37%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130
     40%    24%    24%    23%    23%    25%    23%    23%    23%    22%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 4/166 49/211 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208
     2%    23%    24%    25%    24%    25%    25%    26%    26%    26%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 335(+0) bugs open of 2326(+19) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 87 (+1)
      Spreadsheet - 59 (+4)
      Libreoffice - 28 (-1)
     Presentation - 25 (-2)
         Database - 21 (+0)
          Crashes - 20 (+0)
          Drawing - 15 (-1)
          Borders - 13 (-1)
            BASIC -  5 (+1)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1