minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
    + Markus, Caolan, Norbert, Lionel, Thorsten, Michael M, Eike, David,
      Michael S, Bjoern, Robinson, Andras, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan, Kohei
      Tor, cloph, Ahmad
* Completed Action Items:
    + poke at cross-compile pieces without INPATH (Tor)
        [ inpath removal merged ]
    + make firebird conditional on 'experimental' setting (Lionel)
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/70703
        + Java-free (Firebird?) reproduction case (Lionel)
        + valgrind trace (Lionel)
    + get setup wrt. mobile app-store access (Cloph / Thorsten)
        [ Apple / iOS is handed over, think Cloph has credentials for
          Android - if not poke Florian ]
    + provide certification details to accelerate progress (Bjoern/Stephan)
          
* Pending Action Items:
    + New templates (Ahmad)
        [ code is ready, will be merged by Monday ]
    + produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
        [ VM is setup & running, needs to get access -> Matus,
          on same machine as the crash-test farm ]
    + partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
        [ ongoing work on the python bits ]
    + poke at Android / iOS remote-control translation issues (Andras)
        [ found the issue, know how to fix it - fix pending ]
    + blog about the death of the solver (Michael S)
        [ still no blog for mst ]
    + mail Charles wrt. website / code-finding concerns: want a cgit link nearby (Tibby)
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.1.4 RC1 - November 25th
    + 4.2 Alpha 1 status
        + already released, on dev-builds website & announced to the testing ML etc.
        + Beta 1 - a bigger announcement.
    + 4.2 Feature freeze is Nov 18th.
        + next week / Monday
    + at-risk items for 4.2
        + IAccessible2 - David trying to get something in for the 4.2 branch
        + track-changes toolbar: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47677
           [ merged, needs some new artwork ]
        + new charting pieces (Markus)
           [ at risk for 4.2 freeze ]
        + expert config page - still ~infinitely slow needs fixing
           [ really need a callgrind profile of some sort ]
AI:        + create a 4.2 MAB and attach a callgrind profile.
           [ is this related to a11y being enabled ? (mst) ]
           [ if so need a MANAGES_DESENDANTS tweak for that (Michael) ]
        + sifr icons (Ahmad)
           + theme already in for 4.2 - more artwork coming after the freeze
    + 4.2 MAB count ...
    + gerrit backlog: 50+ patches
    + GSOC / Android & iOS remote control releases from master update
* New commit access proposals (Miklos)
    + Adam Fyne
    + Andres Gomez
    + Jacobo Aragunde Pérez
    + Miguel Gomez
AI: + write welcome mail (Miklos)
        + please review / push other's gerrit commits
        + seek input / review if in any doubt
AI: + send E-mail addresses to Norbert (Miklos)
AI: + poke Igalians about attending ESC (Michael)
* Gerrit backlog (Bjoern)
    + more people with git push access may help
    + Miklos working on reviewing writer patches
    + some of the patches already have comments asking for more work, but no '-1'
    + less than 50 patches
       + 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:master+-label:CodeReview%253C%253D-1+-label:Verified%253C%253D-1,p,0028eb44000019c3
    + if all ESC members review 2x patches all should be well.
* Performance
    + Journalist cannot actually reproduce slower start from article, no measured disparity
    + turn on mergedlibs & LTO for Windows - any objections ? (Michael)
AI:     + turn on & see how it goes for 4.2 (Tor)
        + Thanks to Jesus for offering to review vs. 2010
    + mail merge:
        + AFAIK Pierre-Eric had a rough look at that already
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + cf. http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/
    + need to do a new build / but build-issues in the VM
* INPATH removal (Michael S)
    + reminder to people to rm -Rf workdir/unxlngi6.pro ? ;-)
       + otherwise you'll chew a huge amount of disk-space.
AI: + tinderbox admins - should clean their disks too, and
      update to the very latest tinbuild2 script to get
      up-loads right.
       + windows + Mac already fixed by Cloph
       + inpath fixed for Mac by Norbert too.
* l10n package split building in 4.2 (Bjoern)
    + A heads up, I'd like to push in:
       https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6660/
    + shouldn't break anything; sorts work into l10n vs. non-l10n
      build bits, to allow parallel building of l10n thus splitting
      the work / disk-space requirements (also: e.g. security fixes

     without rebuilding and redistributing all l10n)

* Certification progress (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
    + consensus / approved all proposed candidates.
* Bugzilla attachment mis-categorisation (Michael S)
   + tons have a broken mime-type, cf. type churn from dtardon/mst
   + lots of text/plain even though they are binary documents.
   + auto-detection for mime-types was disabled in bugzilla for a
     period of time - until Tollef re-enabled for LibreOffice (Markus)
      + a historical problem; could have a script to fix all of these,
        but it would spam ~everyone in the world.
   + looking at the docs manually (Michael S)
      + accidentally stumble upon non-integrated patches too.
* QA update (Robinson)
   + Rob is working on automated stats collection & presentation.
      + if developers want some stats from bugzilla - can you
        mail the QA list with suggestions.
   + weekly 'need_advice' bug ping for help:
     + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59125
     + "VIEWING: Characters are shown multiple times when using line breaks"
     + We're having trouble reproducing this issue, but do have a
       screenshot showing the problem.
       
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64499
      "Goalseek does not get answer although Excel has no problem on same sheet saved in xls format"
   + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
     +157    -111    (+46 overall)
      + QA triagers report TDF Tinderboxen (Win, Mac, Linux) were not
        uploading daily builds for a few days (45, 46, 47, 48)
        (also non-TDF tb-39, 42)
       + fixed Tinderbox 39 (Kendy)
          + other tinderboxes seem to be fixed as of now.
          + also needs latest tinbuild for instdir fix (Cloph)
    + Can we script to catch tinderboxes that are not up-loading (Robinson)
       + could be possible, and can mail authors (Cloph)
       + hard to know if tinderbox is deliberately not up-loading (Cloph)
       + every tinderbox has an E-mail address for maintainer in the log (Thorsten)
          + QA are encouraged to just poke them if not up-loading
       + dmg change: distro-config updated by Stephan (Norbert)
          + if tinderbox using distro-config, would have got the right thing
          + if not using distro-config - prolly should to avoid breakage.
     + Bugzilla migration is coming along well
       + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal
       + ETA is ~Q1 2014
       + Tollef working on it wrt. setting up a KVM VM & services & cloning the DB,
           + step #1 - keeps bugzilla on freedesktop infrastructure.
     many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Jean-Baptiste Faure 13
        sophie               9
        Maxim                9
        Eike Rathke          6
        Urmas                6
        Julien Nabet         5
        Caolán McNamara      5
        tommy27              4
        Joel Madero          4
        bfoman               4
[ punted until next time]
* automated code re-formatting / de-crustification (Kendy)
* Next large-scale cleanup targets (Kendy)
* Base issue 70703 (Lionel)
     + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/70703
* QA stats:
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 7/18 5/16 5/15 5/14 4/13 6/13 4/10 2/8 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 28/119 27/118 8/116 21/106 20/103 18/100 17/99 15/96 14/93
     24%    23%   24%    20%    19%    18%    17%   16%   15%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 57/204 53/200 54/200 55/200 57/200 56/198 58/198 56/195 54/193
     28%    27%    27%    28%    29%    29%    29%    29%    28%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 48/162 49/160 49/158 40/148 38/146 36/144 35/143 34/142 34/141
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 335(-1) bugs open of 2084(+8) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 101 (+1)
      Spreadsheet - 45  (+0)
      Libreoffice - 35 (-1)
     Presentation - 26 (+0)
          Crashes - 23 (+2)
         Database - 18 (-2)
          Drawing - 17 (+1)
          Borders - 17 (+0)
            BASIC -  5 (+0)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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