minutes of ESC call ...

* Present
        + Norbert, David, Joel, Andras, Stephan, Kendy, Eike, Michael S,
          Astron, Petr, Lionel, Caolan, Thorsten, Michael M, Bjoern

* Completed Action Items
        + master / unordf bug-fix before pushing writer doc (Michael S)
        + tweak default assignee / mail alias to include 'un-assigned@' (Joel)
                + lovely visible 'Not Assigned's everywhere ...
        + poke docs team wrt. writing off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
                + thanks Sophie !
        + ping Marc wrt. creating a page with certified consultants in
          alphabetical order with rates etc. (Joel)
        + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
                + notabug (Michael S)
        + on-line update tweaks (Kendy)
                => upgrade everything to 3.6.5
                => upgrade all 3.*.0 -> 4.0.0
                + done for two weeks
        + continue ns timestamp discussion & conclude (Stephan/Lionel/Thorsten)
                + best outcome is to break it completely incompatibly
                + some knock-on ODF / standardisation impact
        + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
                + timed out on this AI

* Pending Action Items
        + send out next round of certification invitations (Stephan/Bjoern/Thorsten)
        + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
                + sent to Tollef - who is deadly busy just now.
**      + Update gsoc ideas page
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
                + everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
        + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
        + helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
                + [ pending ]
        + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 4.0.1 rc2 status
                + builds available, synching to mirrors
                + a slew of bugs included; please continue fixing.
        + 4.0.2 rc1 *next deadline*:
                + March 11th
                + 1 week + 1/2 from now.
        + 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 3 weeks out: Monday Mar 18

* UX input (Astron)
        + new icon for impress remote merged and pending 4.0.1 release

* final gnumake removal: status & thanks (Bjoern)
        + Some fantastic work here, we now build everthing in
          one gnumake process
                + http://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/one/
        + build dependency graphing in a post prj/ world (Stephan)
                + need a tool for dependency graphing
                + will we get new circular dependencies ?
                        + no library linking will help and make will fail
                          on circular deps (Norbert)
        + what is needed is a tool to parse the output of
          "make -n -p" - that dumps all the rules (Michael S)
                + not as obvious as build lists were (yet)
                + the build.lst's were rotting anyway (Stephan)
        + a lint tool for make -n -p would be nice (Michael S)
AI:             + write the start of a that tool (Michael)
                + then remove the prj/build.lst and d.lst files.
                + parse only the linktarget pieces (Bjeorn)

* merging external changes (Michael)
        + tool in contrib/dev-tools/scripts/annotate.pl
        + all non-trivial patches require sign-off from relevant
          developer preferably ESC member and testing
        + and another sign-off for back-porting to -4-0

* decision / dropping stale xmerge filters (Andras)
        + drop the minimally functional / not installed ones (Caolan)
                + ActiveSync 3.5 (for win95), pocket word,
                  minicalc, htmlsoff, wordsmith
                + written often as mini samples / proof of concept.
        + decision: drop the unused filters, but retain the xmerge
          framework itself

* Coverity progress (Markus/Norbert/Caolan)
        + new build up-loaded, it'd be nice if more people would
          register / help with the reports:
          http://scan.coverity.com/user_register.html project: 'LibreOffice'
                + then send your account details to Markus / Norbert.
        + making good progress < 600 'high impact' reports left.
        + un-caught exception reports more or less useless, always
          somewhere an exception is not declared.

* Automated crash on import test results (Markus)
        + still hurt by the toolchain bug on SLES11
                + http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15167
AI:             + chase temporary PTF for the server (Kendy)
        + not publish until we're confident there are no false-positive

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
        + sent out list to ESC of invitations, no objections now,
          in one week - Cert. Program guys will async. certify
          them all as approved.

* New features / improving communication (Joel)
        + How to identify new features quickly so QA can
          tackle them (can devs put whiteboard status "NewFeature") ?
                + Enhancement bugs should be marked 'Resolved FIXED'
                + CC Dev's responsible on any bug reports
                + encourage 'works for me' comments in such bugs.
                + try to avoid impress remote / unity issues next time.
        + If a master bug is reported vs. a new feature in the first month
                + CC the dev responsible for the new feature.
        + If a feature is specific

* Hard Hacks:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
        fdo#61025 - Crash when adding a comment on a cell (Markus)
        fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object (Michael)
        fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing (Muthu)
        fdo#37580 - Assign layout malfunction and crash on slide with formula (Thorsten)
AI:             + can't reproduce in 4.1.x - can we get more details (Joel)

* QA update (Joel)
        + since 3.6.0 35% of our bugs were filed via the BSA (Joel)
        + under 150 unconfirmed vs. 4.0, help appreciated with triage.
                http://tinyurl.com/a3csc2o
        + QA will add signatures to triaging comments something like:

                LibreOffice is powered by a team of volunteers, every
                bug is confirmed (triaged) by human beings who mostly
                give their time for free. We invite you to join our
                triaging by checking out this link:
                https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage and
                join us on freenode at #libreoffice-qa

                Also, good bug reports help tremendously in making the
                process go smoother, please always provide
                reproducible steps (even if it seems easy) and attach
                any and all relevant

        + QA added a projects page:
                + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA_Projects
                + add new pieces of interest for QA there.

* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
        + 2 (of 5) older 1/2 3/3
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
        + 14 (of 99) older 15/96 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34
             14%            16%   17%   18%   22%   22%   14%   22%   27%   32%  26%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 75 (of 211) older 76/210 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164
             36%             36%    30%    25%    25%    25%    24%     22%   23%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 27 (of 72)
        + re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
**              http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q - has the latest query for un-fixed bisected bugs
                + hopefully will help people find successful bisections faster
AI:             + export a more helpful link for next minutes (Kendy)
                + the bibisect is really excessively useful

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 292(-3) bugs open of 1333(+32) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 100 (-4)
        + Presentation -  30 (-3)
        + Spreadsheet  -  28 (-4)
        + LibreOffice  -  30 (+5)
        + Crashes      -  21 (-2)
        + Database     -  22 (+1)
        + Drawing      -  17 (+2)
        + Borders      -  13 (+1)
        + Migration    -   5 (+0)
        + Basic        -   2 (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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