minutes of ESC call ...

* Present
        + Stephan, Bjoern, David, Joel, Eike, Kendy, Astron, Norbert,
          Andras, Ahmad, Petr, Michael M, Cedric, Kohei, Michael S,
          Tibby

* Completed Action Items
        + bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)
        + font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
        + poke Astron / Alexander / Mirek wrt. ESC UI seat (Kendy)
        + poke board for new ESC compoosition (+Joel,+Tibby,+Ahmad,+Mirek) (Michael)
                + updated: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
        + provide a new palette based on Tango
                + punted until new color selector is in place ?
        + setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
                + posted, awaiting input
        + review unity-menus branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)
                + code looks cool

* Pending Action Items
        + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
        + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
        + poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
        + issues to look into if we can
                + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
        + grok the list of contributors for suitable certified hackers (Kendy)
        + work on mail to encourage them to get certified (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
        + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6.4 rc1 status
                + built, up-loaded, for announce @ weekend
                + deadline for rc2 - the week after: Nov 26th
                        + triple review until then.
        + 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
                + feature-freeze ~2 weeks out.
                + Alpha 0 build planned beforehand to test build / pkg

* UX input (Astron)
        + improving the standard shape colors Alex's question on dev list
                + help appreciated.
        + T-shirt design challenge is running:
                + one promised as a prize
        + color picker prototype coming along nicely
                + http://michel.renon.free.fr/libreoffice/colorpicker_20121112/
        + help cleaning up new dialogs in glade much appreciated
                + install a master snapshot - look for '.ui' files
                + can be edited live.
        + should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
AI:             + consensus of UI team is to re-enable them by default (Kendy)
        + document recovery dialog changes ?
                + Kendy's initial thought - easy to fix quickly.
                + if able to split it into easy-hacks: good too.
                + not a real offer to spend too much time.

* Hack-fest next weekend: 23rd-25th ...
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012
                + hope to see you there...
                + if people need travel subsidy to be there
                  please contact Thorsten.

* FOSDEM dev-room:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
        + travel subsidy available
        + talks much appreciated, sign up early.

* CUPS - switching back to PDF output by default
        + discussion on the lists - decide next time.

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
        + no new people yet - building list for next week.
        + announcement received well

* 4.0 completed tasks:
        + binfilter - removed completely (Norbert)
                + removes legacy StarOffice 1.0->5.0 binary filters
                + leaves .sxw .sxi etc. zip formats
        + dropped migrationAnalysis (Norbert)
                + obsolete, not-built, code removed now
        + not removing Lotus Word Pro filter
                + no good technical reasons to.
        + should we switch to native gtk+/print for 4.0 ?
                + no: not complete for some features yet (Dtardon)

* 4.0 pending tasks
        + upgrade bundled python to 3.3 (Michael S)
                + compiling & delivering nicely on Linux
                + unbelievable complexity in delivering being fixed.
                + 40k lines of patches removed.
AI:             + work ongoing, testing help appreciated for Mac (Norbert)
        + Mac / 10.4 / PPC dropping (Norbert)
                + need to drop it at some point; drop now
                  with deprecation ?
                + decided: deprecate 10.4/5 and raise base-line to 10.6
                        + expect to drop PPC mac for 4.1
        + user migration path thought / testing (Petr)
                + simple linux migration works for release config.
                => can't be tested easily with daily builds
                + issues around dropping old user-install info wrt.
                  berkleydb (Stephan)
                => need to hack some more code in there.
        + drop legacy / STLport in 4.0 outright ? (Stephan)
                + keep it longer for back-compat ?
AI:             + check that with latest DudenCorrector first (Kendy)
                  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37561
                  UWINAPI not needed - but latest ver. still links
                  to stlport
                + decide: if ok with them -> drop stlport for 4.0
        + drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
                + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
        + developers need to decide what to do next
                + punting for a month until post Feature Freeze settle ?
        + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
        
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* Hard Hacks fixed with thanks:
        + fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Radek)

* Hard Hacks:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
                + page updated
                + developers like the selection of hard hacks
        + fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
                + well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster area.
                        + best to remove from the list for now ...

* LibreOffice commit tweeter setup (Bjoern)
        + intended to tweet all our commits;
                + throttled by twitterfeed things to 5x every ~20 mins
                + (un)fortunately we often commit faster.
        + interesting nonetheless:
                + https://twitter.com/LOcommits

* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
        + starting bi-weekly meetings again from tomorrow
        + Rainer started a nice todo list:
          http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Todo_rename_3.7_to_4.0

* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
        + fdo#57090 - UI: Buttons cut off in 'Insert Table' dialog (Caolan)
        + fdo#57092 - UI: cursor does not blink in ‘Name’ field (Caolan)
        + fdo#57046 - no windows tinderbox builds as of recently (Fridrich)
        + fdo#57051 - Mac builds don't start with liblangtag bustage (Caolan)

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
        + 6 (of 21) older 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13
             29%          22%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

        + fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
        + fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
        + fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down
        + fdo#57026 - particular .docx shows all text frames filling complete page size
        + fdo#57059 - crash when scroll down on (Writer) HELP contents

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 33 (of 150) older 34/148 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137
              22%            23%    24%    24%    23%    21%    32%    34%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 65 (of 278) older 69/278 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279
              23%            25%    25%    27%    28%    28%    29%    29%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 186(+8) bugs open of 907(+16) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 80 (+6)
        + Presentation - 18 (+1)
        + Spreadsheet  - 16 (+1)
        + Database     - 16 (+0)
        + Crashes      - 16 (-1)
        + Drawing      - 12 (-1)
        + LibreOffice  - 11 (-1)
        + Borders      - 9  (+0)
        + Migration    - 5  (+0)
        + Basic        - 3  (+0)
        + Writer / RTF - 1  (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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