minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
        + Fridrich, Lionel, Stephan, Norbert, Andras, Kendy,
          Michael M, Kohei, Cedric, David, Joel, Astron, Cloph

* Completed Action Items
        + enable evolution connector in distro-config for Linux (Lionel)
        + change pre-selection of default dictionaries to install (Stephan)
                + massive help indexing acceleration already in 3.6.2
                + due for 3.6.3
        + enable debug bits for Mac tinderbox (Norbert)
                + debug information enabled & live: --with-symbols
        + work-out a nice size limit for bundled fonts (Kendy)
                + [punt it] in favour of new font download solution
                  Lubos working on it - struggling with caches.
        + conference papers committee assistance (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
        + [pending] make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
        + crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz)
        + gerrit - patch abandonment can only be done by owner or gerrit admin (Bjoern)
        + gerrit - update docs in wiki (Bjoern)
        + Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
        + change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy (Michael)

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
        + 3.6.2 rc1 status
                + in pre-release, populating mirrors.
        + 3.5.7 rc1 - September 17th (next Monday)
        + Fridrich doing releng while Petr on vacation
                + likes most patches integrated by Friday for slower hardware

* conference program update (Norbert/Cedric/Fridrich)
        + conference looking good, lots of interesting papers
        + papers will be availble on line

* Joel introduction / welcome
        + joined a couple of months ago
        + mostly doing trigaing
        + some coding fixes

* emotive plea for more easy-hacks (Andras)
        + lots of students / volunteers chewing through the easy hacks
        + need more Easy Hacks particularly tasks:
                + that can take a few weeks for new hackers.
                + not trivial cleanup (only useful to learn review process)
                + more substantial / interesting: three week bits.
        + new volunteers: could they learn by triaging.

* UI / design update (Astron)
        + gradient-fill for cells:
                + review: better for whole areas rather than cells
                + interoperability issues ?
        + borders query:
                + we have to pick sensible default options / settings
        + Android icon underway with Alex's help
        + work ongoing improving icon themes too
        + options reduction ongoing interest
AI:     + new git repository needed for UI stuff 'original-artwork' (Norbert)

* QA update (Joel)
        + immature interaction styles in bugzilla
                + encourage people to interact positively
                + don't just ask to reproduce on latest
                  ver. unless v. old
        + more complication wrt. when to 'close' bugs ...
                + only developers should close it resolved->fixed
                        + unless QA can resolve exactly when.
                + use resolved->worksforme instead.
        + do we close a bug when it's fixed on master or all branches ?
                + some things get fixed but related to separate bugs
                + the bug-bot adds helpful comments when it's cherry-picked
                + prefer fixed when fixed on master (Kendy)
                + tracker bug dependencies different (Lionel)
                        + crossed out only when it's fixed in that branch
                + problem remembering coming back to close it later (Norbert)
        + is it ok to close worksforme if it works on master ?
                + if not so serious for back-porting, ok (Lionel)
                + worth having the latest stable branch in parallel
                  not worth going back further for worksforme
                + what proportion are 'worksforme' ? (Kendy)
                        + rougly:
                                + 50% => needinfo
                                + 25% workforme
                                + 25% => developers
        + some annoying bugs with calc (Rainer)
                + really helps to have actual documents etc. (Kohei)
                + eg. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54498
                + many are duplicates: moggi addressing the core issue
                  on an overheating laptop.
        + begging for more triage volunteers:
                + once we catch-up all is good; but we're so far behind.
                + catch-up 10x bugs per week but a 1300 backlog
                        + 20-30 new per day.
                        + lots of user-appreciation.
**              + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage          **
        + need help confirming some 2011 bugs:
                + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=128200&chfieldto=2011-12-31&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&product=LibreOffice
                + hard to triage / complex bugs.
        + should we have a(nother) bug-hunting party (Fridrich?)

        + HardHacks:
AI:             + get some more (Joel)
                + need constant re-filling to five open (Stephan)

      ID      OS      Component - Summary
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      32948   Linux   Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source
                      Wizard fails with message "No SDBC driver was found"
                + bug-log mixes several different issues, very unclear
                + one of them fixed / enabled this connector by default
                + agreed no longer a hard-hack

      34548   All     Presentation - EDITING: CRASH in action after Undo
                + prototype hack-around from Michael M awaiting feedback
                + the problem looks hideous.
      33302   Mac     Libreoffice - FILEOPEN/EDITING RTL text: parentheses and
                       brackets "(...) [...]" inverted to ")...( ]...["
                       with some fonts
                + Mac volunteers appreciated.
      --- new suggested hard-hack ---
      51023   All     Drag-and-drop slide always moves slide to first position,
                      leading to data corruption and sometimes CRASH


* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)
        + propose call the next ver 4.0, but leave the detailed
          discussion until the conference.
          http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
    + 44 (of 127) older 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 11/58 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37
          35%            33%    28%   29%   26%   19%   22%   23%   19%  27%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
    + 80 open (of 270) older 81/269 73/258 73/257 76/256 75/253 77/253 73/250
          30%                 30%    26%    28%    30%     30%    30%    29%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 166(-6) bugs open of 788(+7) total

    * ~Component   count net *
    + Writer       - 69 (-3)
    + Presentation - 18 (+0)
    + Crashes      - 16 (-2)
    + LibreOffice  - 14 (+0)
    + Database     - 14 (-2)
    + Drawing      - 12 (+0)
    + Migration    - 11 (+0)
    + Borders      - 11 (+0)
    + Spreadsheet  - 10 (+@)
    + Writer / RTF - 3  (-1)
    + Basic        - 3  (+0)

    + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
    + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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