[Libreoffice] minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
        + Lionel, Tor, Michael, Eike, Norbert, Stephan,
          David, Fridrich, Rainer, Christian, Petr, Andras,
          Kohei, Thorsten, Mitch

* Completed Action Items
        + add postgresql to 3.5 feature page (Lionel)
        + make it clear the SAL_INFO etc. macros are internal only for 3.5 (Stephan)
        + checking pg baseline on windows (Fridrich)
        + FOSDEM: add <slot to be filed> talk (Stephan)
        + FOSDEM: add Internal structure of calc talk (Eike)
        + FOSDEM: add easy hacks talk (Michael)
        + poke fdo bugzilla hero Tollef wrt. performance (Michael)
                + major hardware upgrade planned soon.
        + cleanup old test build server directories (Thorsten)
        + WONTFIX fdo#... in pleasant way (Thorsten)
        + qa list incomplete, or updating slowly on gmane, poke Florian (Thorsten)
                + unknown transient issue apparently gone.
        + qa heros issues (Michael)
                + needs a new bugzilla extension, wait a bit.

* Pending Action Items
        + add tinderbox name to build-id (Norbert)
        + [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
        + get a permanant re-direction link for bug assistent (Thorsten)
                + hack up the Help->File bug menu item (Thorsten)
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
        + include slowchecks into tail_build's Makefile (Markus?)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.4.5 status
                + bit delayed by Christmas catchup
                + blocker proposed, investigated but not a regression
                + scheduled to be announced shortly, pending marketing input
        + 3.5.0 status
                + pre-release Beta 3 builds up-loaded
                        + blocked by getting 3.4.5 out first
                        + hope to have it out by Saturday

******** Hard English string & UI freeze - in effect now ********

                + After Monday/Tuesday's RC1 tag need a 2nd review

******** From Monday 16th - one extra pair of eyes needed per commit ********

                + the future:
                        + 2x extra patch reviewers starts at RC2
                        + 3x extra patch reviewers starts at RC3
                + lots of bugs being fixed - please continue !

* Mechanism for asking Translators permission for string freeze breakage ?
        + how many translators to ask (Andras?)
        + previous rule was bug fixes that required them were ok
        + rule: if the bug is more serious than a broken translation ? (Petr)
        + potentially in point-zero releases less serious (Petr?)
        + Decided - ask: l10n@global.libreoffice.org for approval in future

* QA update (Rainer)
        + Windows 8 problem
                + running under Virtualbox, can be reproduced
        + Bugzilla updates sorted out with Thorsten
        + status of permanent re-direction link for assistant ?
                + admins need to be told what link they want
                + create link in a couple of minutes,
                  ver+os+ as parameters to allow re-direction of
                  old versions.
AA:             + create http://hub.libreoffice.org/file-a-bug/ (Christian)
        + unreviewed bugs
                + stopped the trend of unchecked bugs increasing
                + lots of bug-fixes coming in
                + very good situation

* ICU size shrink - save 4Mb ... (Eike)
        + great, but prolly not ready for 3.5.0

* Mitch / MSI building update
        + vacation since the last meeting
        + pushed-back by another high-prio project
        + two week delay expected

* FOSDEM dev-room schedule
        + tons of talks, not much time - maximum time slot 30mins
        + program still under discussion, for publication decision soon.

* all bugs created by LibO considered invalid by MS Office
        + we do the right thing: putting 1.2 in the manifest version (Thorsten)
                + recent bug-fix in a 3.4 CWS
        + ODF 1.2 makes the version mandatory, and must have value=1.2
        + if it is seen, MS Office will claim it is invalid.
        + it's not possible for us to write valid ODF 1.2 docs about
          which MS Office doesn't complain
                + MS Office offers to 'repair' & import it
                        + that looks scary.
                + it's not our bug
        + Need to release-note this:
                + avoid recommending the legacy 1.1 format due to
                  data loss concerns

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 23 open (of 71 total)
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

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