[Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...

* Present:
        + Rainer, Michael Stahl, Christian, Norbert, Cor Nouws,
          Bjoern, Lionel, Stephan, Eike, Kendy, Caolan, Cedric,
          Petr, Lubos

* Completed Action Items
        + create 'lightproof' git repo on freedesktop for Laszlo (Michael)
        + review pending labels patch if possible (Bjoern)
        + cherry-pick lightproof to Beta2 (post Beta1) (Andras)
        + disable gtk3 except in experimental mode (Michael)
        + add this layout feature into a product build (Cedric)
                + make it dependent on a getenv() to avoid callcatcher
        + need to download & install libpostgresql for Mac/Windows (Fridrich)
        + enable Java 7 in 3.4.5, suck and see in RC1 (Stephan)
        + add fixing bugassistant to top #10 easy tasks page (Petr)

* Pending Action Items
        + [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
        + [in progress] come up with a list of QA heros (Rainer)
        + add tinderbox name to build-id (Norbert)
        + cleanup old test build server directories (Thorsten)
        + setup linux build system to build gtk3 support by default for this (Michael)
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
        + get Rainer setup with git commit access (Michael)
        + forward access details to Thorsten (Rainer)

* Action Items

* Sexy new type-safe & small printf / format logic (Lubos)
AA:     + make it clear the SAL_INFO etc. macros are internal only for 3.5 (Stephan)
        + delay changes strings until LibO 4 ? (Stephan)
        + not necessarily the printf format; faster without it (Lubos)
        + just fixing the '+' operator can help too (Lubos)
        + consensus for inclusion of printf style in master if Lubos wants to do it

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.5.0 B1 is out
                + first feedback from pre-release: good.
                + much better than Beta 0 / a promising start
                + thanks to all that helped
        + 3.5.0 B2
                + tag / deadline on Monday
        + 3.4.5 - tag delayed by two days
                + builds already on pre-release ftp site,
                  synching to mirrors for announce soon,
                  delay not that large in the end.
                + branch libreoffice-3-4-5 for this release
        + most-annoying bugs important for release

* QA - bug hunting sessions (Cor)
        + not easy to get lots of people involved
        + bug hunting planned for Wed 28 / Thur 29th of December
        + another one planned for RC1 Jan Fri 20th / Sat 21th of Jan
        + promotion on TDF blog / twitter etc.
        + litmus and random testing

* QA update (Rainer)
        + spreadsheet advanced filters problems, cf. mail on list
        + regressions discussions
                + component_getFactory issue is dominant (Caolan)
                        + presenter console, language crash on popups, etc.
                        + re-asses with fixes in master
                + planning to publish document
                        + please track that query ...
                        + http://tinyurl.com/7z9ozoc
        + bug hunting sessions on IRC - joining in with Cor
        + bugzilla submission assistant - lots of work currently
                + pending integration of link in the help menu for 3.5
AA:             + get a permanant re-direction link for bug assistent (Thorsten)
AA:             + hack up the Help->File bug menu item

QA awesome git bibi fun (Bjoern)
        + lots of binaries compressed into one git repo
                + allows bisection to find when it first appeared
        + 50+ installs into ~750Mb
        + built every 64th commit on master - 50% succeeded
                + having bisected - only a ~200 commit range
                + maybe visible from the git log
        + is it a universal install (Kendy)
                + built on a recent Ubuntu, but with internal libs (Bjoern)
        + tinderbox integration might be good
        + is there a script to add a package to git ? (Norbert)
                + script is in dev-tools (Bjoern)
                + could automate a once-per-day git repo creation
                + some of the magic is in the re-pack 4Gb -> 750Mb.
        + Norbert to investigate it working on Mac, will it bloat up
                + have to copy images, not DMGs

* Mitch / MSI building update (sends his regrets)

* cairo / Fedora 16 etc. version nasty (Michael)
        + prolly specific to some (non-default) theme
AA:     + upgrade the internal cairo to latest stable to fix (Fridrich)
        + could we break things vs. an old system cairo (Petr)

* postgresql bits
AA:     + add postgresql to 3.5 feature page (Lionel)
AA:     + checking pg baseline on windows (Fridrich)

* Robust subsequenttests to a third category: tail_build tests (Michael/Stephan)
        + discuss next time:

* Next time:
        + skip 22nd and 29th TSC calls unless an emergency strikes
        + next call: 5th December

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

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