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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 05:21:39PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 04:34:23PM +0100, Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Wednesday 30 of November 2011, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:

New commits:
commit 1f538764acdd67c3f294cd03da006ace27f736ef
Author: Bjoern Michaelsen <bjoern.michaelsen@canonical.com>
Date:   Wed Nov 30 14:02:08 2011 +0100

    make build.pl verbose on non-silent builds

Moreover I question the usefullness of having verbose build by default.

Please do not go down that road. The default behaviour is the one of GNU make.
Its well documented and if you want make to default to make -s you are free to
make yourself an alias in bash for it. In addition verbose builds are a good
default esp. for builders/bots and newcomers.

My builds kept failing today; without this commit I wouldn't have been able
to find the exact sequence of commands leading to the crashs and the root bug
would not have been fixed.

None of the verbose build options documented in the wiki were working. Having
a clean non-verbose terminal output may be a pretty thing but if it leads to
lost hours of work, it's definitively _not_ an improvement.

I'm grateful to Bjoern for having re-established the verbose output behavior.

-- 
Francois Tigeot

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