Re: [Libreoffice] SolidMarkHandles

Hi Michael,

Michael Meeks schrieb:
> Hi Regina,
>
> On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 11:18 +0100, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > I do not understand, why SolidMarkHandles should be removed. It works as
> > it should.
>
>         Heh :-)
>
> > If it is set to TRUE, you get the 3D-Handles, and if it is
> > set to FALSE, you get the flat handles. It is the same setting as the
> > icon "Simple Handles" (= .uno:HandlesDraft) in Draw. You have no UI for
> > it in Writer, but need a macro to change it. But why removing it?
>
>         The feature is of highly dubious usefulness; the UI advise list seemed
> to agree that the feature is not useful, it drags around yet-another
> big, complicated image, it makes that image harder to edit, chop up and
> improve (which we want to do for handles) by requiring us to do
> everything at least twice: once for 'simple' and once for 'solid'.
> Removing pointless features that clutter the code making it harder to
> maintain&  add cruft to the UI is (I think) just a good thing to do.
>
>         So - given the extreme unlikeliness of anyone knowing or caring about
> this feature, and the new 3.5 handles (which are semi-transparent)
> making it rather un-necessary - I'm looking at pushing Tim's full
> removal patch shortly.

Your explanations convinced me. That would mean, that the UI in the 
other modules is changed too? If yes, it needs a description in 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5 that highlight the 
advantages. It is not my work and I'm no native English speaker, so I 
will not change it myself. But what about something like:
"Handles will be semi-transparent now. Thus you can still see the edges 
of the object through the handle. The distinction between solid and flat 
handles was removed for to make option settings clearer and better 
manageable."

I miss changes in the help files
/help/helpcontent2/source/text/shared/optionen/01040200.xhp
id="hd_id3155420" and id="par_id3156327"

/help/helpcontent2/source/text/shared/optionen/01060100.xhp
id="hd_id3150358" and id="par_id3154140"

/help/helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/02/13070000.xhp
<section id="handleinfach"> and <section id="einhandl">

I don't know, whether changes to /help/helpcontent2/helpers/help_hid.lst 
are needed.

>         Of course - since it is a string property - we should be able to grep
> all-known binary extensions to see if anyone, anywhere ever used this
> property; my strong 99.9% suspicion is not ;-) Furthermore, if it is not
> there, and their code handles exceptions cleanly, all should be well
> too.
>
>         Ideally we'd have a repository of proprietary binary (and better
> open-source) extensions somewhere so we can check what they actually use
> of our vast exposed feature set.

I do not think that most macros will end in an extension, so extensions 
might not reflect the use of a feature.

Kind regards
Regina