[Libreoffice] minutes of tech steering call ...

Present:
        + Norbert, Mitch, David, Kendy, Andras, Michael,
          Caolan, Rainer, Bjoern, Fridrich, Petr

* Completed Action Items
        + implementing vertical text with Cairo (Caolan)
        + manual / wiki page for using nightlies (Rainer)
        + windows snapshot builds are really old (Fridrich)
                + kicking it again
                + lots of dependency problems
                        - switch to single CPU build
        + Submit the suggested papers ... (All)
                + Caolan
                        + Writer internals cf. FOSDEM ? (with Cedric)
                        + Security / testing infrastructure / work
                + Bjoern
                        + gbuild - why / how / get involved
        + ask Matus to look into gnumake4 CWS ... (Michael)
        + gnumake4 CWS merge to master (Bjoern)
                + builds & runs nicely
                + subsequenttests not looking so good
                + incremental builds should be faster
        + read the gettext patch again (Michael)
                + looks good, no explanation for flakiness, perhaps threads ?
        + have a look at header wrap bug: 39155 (Kendy)
                + behavioural change for compat, requires more thought

* Pending Action Items:
        + review Norbert's updated C app (Kendy, Tor)
        + mail bugzilla query wrt. regression to dev list (Caolan)
        + easy hacks - completion / fixing (Bjoern)
        + in-progress: get SmartArt into master feature (Thorsten)
        + in-progress: create QA mailing list (Rainer)
        + conference papers:
                + http://conference.libreoffice.org/submit-your-paper/
                + Michael
                        + meet the ESC panel ...
                        + status report for the last year's work ?
                + Mitch
                        + feedback from a new C++ extension author
                + Francois
                        + making LibreOffice easier to port
                + Cedric
                        + GSOC update - double-slot
                        + what's next in writer
                + Norbert:
                        + onegit / tinderbox
        + enable on-line updates for QA for dailies ... (Kendy)
        + create / re-use wiki page how to contact other teams for more
          complex features "proposals" (Petr)
        + go through the not-yet-fixed Most Annoying 3.4 bugs, and see
          how many of them are / are not in 3.3.x already (Rainer)

* misc technical / process decisions
        + one git migration timeline / plans (Norbert)
                + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/One_Git_Conversion#planning
                + update will happen Monday: 3 weeks from now
                + August 8th - a new git repo to clone ...
        + Python 3 support
                + cf. list discussion: prefered method to ship
                  internal python3 on mac.
        + QA test vector / input for calc / mdds update (Kohei)
                + matrix formulae need heavy testing for 3.4.2(rc2) if possible
                + mdds migrated to git to allow branching in future
        + developer / build instructions: pointing at the wiki ? ... (Norbert)
AA:             + clarify the instructions to point more at the wiki (Norbert)
AA:             + get Norbert access for the developer web-page / CMS (Michael)

* Releng bits (Petr)
        + 3.4.2 status
                + tag for rc2 on Tuesday, builds are being up-loaded,
                  on pre-release http server.
AA:             + pre-announce for QA (Petr)
                + plenty more scope for fixing bugs in 3.4.3 (due in ~one month)
        + 3.3.4 schedule error being fixed: moving closer in.
        + 3.5.x schedule reminder
                + four months or less until feature freeze

* QA update (Rainer)
AA:     + release notes for 3.4.2 rc1 39277 - (Petr)
        + more users starting to help out with bugs (much appreciated)
                + situation / backlog improving
                + encouraging growth & progress in QA
        + don't know how many of the Most Annoying are new in 3.4
                + perhaps the most interesting piece of data
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/Workbench/Recommend_Upgrade_from_3.3.3_to_3.4.2
                + difficult to get a clear view
                + categories & sampling to detect regressions or not ?
                + prefer to use the most annoying as a proxy.

* Questions ?


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