Re: [Libreoffice] [UX] [PATCH] EasyHacks 3.27 Change Sheet copy process

Hi all!

Since the rest of my family is sleeping now, there are some minutes
left ... but I expect my nieces to get me out of the bed in a (very) few
hours. Thus, shortened answer :-)

Am Mittwoch, den 22.12.2010, 11:03 -0500 schrieb Kohei Yoshida:
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> > Another thing would be helpful ... a more instant feedback on name
> > conflicts: showing a comment below the name text field, deactivating the
> > "OK" button. The "/!\" symbolizes a small warning sign.
>
> Ah, good.  Great minds think alike. :-)
>
> Regarding the /!\ warning symbol, can you think of any existing dialog
> that does that?  I like the idea itself, but I don't know how that could
> be (easily) implemented.  Looking at an existing dialog code would help
> me figure out how to do this.

At the moment, I don't know any existing dialog within LibO ... maybe
(sort of) the Tools -- Options dialog that (if I remember correctly)
shows some messages if certain options are locked down by
administrators.

But, maybe the ongoing effort within the OOo UX team might help us. It
doesn't fit perfectly, because the invalid name is persistent but the
info bubble is designed to appear temporarily:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Projects/NonModalMessageSystem#Step_2_-_Message_Style_2a

> >       * Think about the "Insert Before" thing ... it is not that obvious
> >         what this means. Is there any way to make this more
> >         understandable? 
>
> Hmm.  This needs some thinking.

I'll comment on Joost's proposals in his mail ...

> >       * Does any data / experience prove that the default (new) position
> >         of the sheet should be directly after the source sheet?
>
> I didn't see any usage data in the spreadsheet file I downloaded from
> here
>
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOo31_Usage_Feedback_Data.ods
>
> Anyone is welcomed to double-check it though.

I downloaded the file at the top of the list and had a look at the Calc
sheet. It seems that most of the stuff is still German - so I just
looked for items that contain "move".

For example (sorry, no deep-dive), I found the following (seems to be
checking the button "copy" within the dialog):
        TabelleVerschiebenKopieren-Kopieren
        sc:CheckBox:RID_SCDLG_MOVETAB:BTN_COPY  Check
        2352

> > Did that help ... even if I just throw in some late ideas? ;-)
>
> Yes, it did.  I guess we have some further work to do in this
> dialog. :-)

Wait, wait ... I have more ideas for even more dialogs ;-)))

Thanks a lot to both you Kohei, and Joost!

Cheers,
Christoph