At 12:12pm -0400 Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Michael Meeks wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 10:48 -0400, Kevin Hunter wrote:
The short answer is no, I'm not scared of "all future versions",
but on principal, I will not blindly trust a document that I (no
one!) have yet to see.
Fair enough :-) We're still thinking this through I guess. How would
you feel about The Document Foundation (as/when it exists) being your
'proxy' for future versions ?
It's not perfect, but I have to draw the pragmatic line somewhere, don't 
I?  Yes, in it's current iteration and existence, I would be willing to 
assign the Document Foundation as my proxy for 'future versions'.  I 
realize that this is effectively code assignment, but feels more 
semantically "the right thing do" than does the "all future versions" route.
As an aside, I generally find it difficult to know when to be pedantic 
about semantics (and I believe that there /is/ a time to be pedantic).
Ultimately of course - if you think GPLv4 will remove freedoms, the
question is why anyone would switch from GPLv3 ;-) I assume you're
more inclined to be worried about removing restrictions in a way that
might impact freedom (?).
Right on, and that's perhaps one of the defining differences between the 
GPL and the MPL, yes?  The GPL binds the /licensees/ whereas the MPL 
/releases the right to *all* licensees/.  I am eventually and always 
worried about the interplay of freedom and restriction (which are not 
necessarily mutually exclusive).  You get from where I'm coming, I think.
In the shorter term, if that does not work for the LO project, let
me point out that I am hardly a major contributor.
Sure, sure - but we would love you to become one :-) I still tend to
(for all its faults) think that a plus license has some real strengths
for future re-licensing.
:-) Convince me!  I clearly am missing a large detail given that so many 
projects have used the "and any later version" clause since at least 
GPLv2 (when I came in).
Cheers,
Kevin
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