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Re: [libreoffice-design] Icon for styles dialog
- Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Icon for styles dialog
- From: Mattias Põldaru <email@example.com>
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 00:38:09 +0200
- To: LO Design <firstname.lastname@example.org>
18.03.2014 09:39, Stefan Knorr kirjutas:
Hi Matthias,Hi Stefan, thank you!
thanks for the overview, much appreciated!
Here you have two similar ones side by side, one for styles dialog, the other for quick styles (looks like it is visible only when window is extremely narrow): http://d1dlalugb0z2hd.cloudfront.net/vpuml/tutorials/word_screenshots/03_to_modify_style.pngMicrosoft Word uses an A with paintbrush or two A-s for Change styles:Seems to be one of the better ones, actually. It's a bit text-centric,
but not as much as previous iterations were:
(Word 2003 screenshot, the Styles icon is in the second toolbar from the
top, first from the left [AA].)
For Word being text centric is all good, because it is used for text styles only. Word does have numbering styles, these are located elsewhere and that's about it. It doesn't need more generic icon.
The second A on Word icon clearly shows it has different font and color. Zoho icon does not.Zoho uses a combination of both two A-s and a paintbrush:Similar to Word's icon, but I am not sure if the second A improves on
If Word's icon didn't have two A characters, then paintbrush with either single or double A could mean text color as well (so Zoho icon kind of relies on Word icon).
On the other hand using S at least makes sense for the English speaking world and for languages which have adapted the word from the same source (e.g Estonian has "stiilid"), this part of population is rather large, using just A is equally bad for everyone (unless there is a language...). Conclusion, I wouldn't say using S is that bad.Adobe uses styled S (doesn't translate that well)That was Apple's I-Work, I think. My opinion of it is that this icon is
about as bad as it gets. (Not internationalised [the S very
English-specific] and looks like the paste from clipboard icon.)
These two squares stand here for "color" (see the color selection indicator for background and foreground colors in GIMP, Photoshop or "fill and stroke" color in vector programs such as Inkscape, InDesign, Illustrator etc). Basically the equivalent for paintbrush or palette.or a combination of "color icon" and A for character styles and pilgrimWell, the styles part of the icon seem to be the two little squares at
¶ for paragraph styles in InDesign:
the bottom left. I am not sure what they are supposed to tell me. Maybe
something like copying of attributes from a master [square with thick
frame] to an instance of the element [overlaid square with thin frame])?
However, I don't think they would work standing alone -- which we'd needTrue, we need both an icon for "all kinds of styles" and for every specific style.
since our UI is different from Adobe's
Right now we have this set if icons, all are similar, paper or notebook indicates they are styles: http://www.upload.ee/image/3953205/styles_icons.png
Can't they pick another one? Seriously. (nah, just kidding)One interesting icon an A made of a ruler, a pencil and a paintbrushUnfortunately, that is Apple's App Store/Application Folder icon. So,
(metaphor similar to Sifr icons):
can't use that.
Even if they have trademarked the icon, then there certainly are ways to combining an A from paintbrush, ruler and a pencil (or a pen) so that it infringes nothing. Question rather is if the metaphor is good and understood. But it certainly isn't the generic "styles" icon.
In LO 4.2.2 drawing toolbar toggle pictures a pen or pencil with a line being drawn (everything except Sifr) or a cup with drawing tools (Sifr). A picture, please?I would propose using stencil ruler as the metaphor. Stencil is used toIn Tango, we now already have a stencil to toggle the Draw toolbar. It
draw similar objects (this is what styles are about). A Sifr-style icon
could look something like this:
looks pretty similar, except that there are four instead of three shapes
My conclusion is that it might be good to either use an icon moreI am not opposed if nothing better is found.
similar to MSO's [recognisably so] or stick to what we have in Tango.
The very best solution would be a metaphor which would be same for paragraph, character, page etc styles as an addition to the specific icon and would work just as well as standalone icon. Right now it looks like this metaphor does not exist (yet?). IMHO stencil is not bad as a standalone icon but does not work as an addition to the other icons.
Tango icon could be interpreted also as picking a color from a color card or palette. An artist's palette could work as a standalone or as a small indicator. But it certainly would be confused to be a color picker. Other similar metaphors which unfortunately are hard to picture are catalog, perforated card (aged metaphor or will be obsolete soon), set of folders (already used). A coin stamping machine? A row of identical shapes of rectangles, another of circles.
And interesting icon for "Profiles" (very similar concept to styles) in my old Nokia is a pizza divided into four, one piece is a little apart and it has a wrench (for settings, not properties). The pizza, pie or whatever it is, probably stands for "one of many". A little later Nokia renamed profiles to styles, but I unfortunately don't have a phone from that era.
Left middle, without wrench and coloured: http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/nokia/7600/nokia-7600-screen-mainmenu.jpg
Looks like Symbian uses similar divided pie concept but with a note to make it clear: https://betalabs.nokia.com/sites/default/files/What.png
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