[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Oct-07

Present: Eyal, Bogdan, John, Jan, Heiko
Comments: Jouni, Stuart

Tickets/Topics

 * Default color-accented notebookbar has to low contrast to
   quick access icons
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173755
   + rather change icons than colors (Heiko)
   + disagree with changing colors (John)
   + mostly an issue at the disabled state (Stuart)
   + against making the colors monochrome: Somewhat disrespectful to icon
     theme maintainer and makes the icon scheme inconsistent  (Eyal)
   + colored icons not matching the background is a generic issue
     that could be solved with an aura or shadow (Eyal)
   + it's just a bad "first impression" (Jan)
   + increasing the contrast of the background (blue color) of the
     icons sounds good, lighter blue for light theme, darker blue for
     dark theme (Bogdan)
   + icon style might be destroyed with aura/shadow etc. (Jan)
 => change icons is the easiest

 * Adopt the "ghost-cut" approach to cutting
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173772
   + welcome as alternative (Jan, Heiko)
   + some questions around the usability, but interesting anyway (all)
   + all about the history of cut 'n paste: 
https://www.lri.fr/~mbl/ENS/FundHCI/2013/papers/Tesler-CutCopyPaste-Interactions2012.pdf 
(Jan)
   + moving text cross-application is not possible/easy anymore (Jan)
 => make it optional, eg. per Tools > Option > (somewhere)
   (o) Cut n' paste ( ) Ghost 'n paste

 * Enable Different Document Background Color by Program in
   Appearance Options
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170776
   + use case plausible but not strong enough (Jouni)
   + users may appreciate the possibility (John)
     + tend to disagree but not sure (Eyal)
     + dark background on/off could be interesting (Eyal)
     + we can store the "use white background" option but that means to
       place the option under the module settings away from Appearance;
       still against the proposal (Heiko)
   + yet another thing to manage- too much for most users (Jan)
 => detriments outweigh the benefit => WF

 * Object resizing - Have Krita behaviour
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165750
   + duplicate of bug 161441 (Jan)
 => DUP

 * Preference to always encrypt to additional GPG keys
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162630
   + agree with the request (Eyal)
   + if possible, add the encryption to a template (Heiko)
   + footgunable request, would expect prototype before playing
     with security (Jan)
   + current situation is weird with self-encryption plus two more,
     against templates as special encryption is easy to forget and
     template authors usually do not consider encryption,
     requires better visibility of target users aka address book (Eyal)
 => accept and comment

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