[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Apr-22

Present: Eyal. Daniel, John, Dan, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Regina, Jan, Miguel, Ady

Tickets/Topics

 * Show the name of current page in Status bar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170537
   + Navigator is much more efficient (Stuart)
   + "manual" customizability exists (Regina)
   + the current layer is added to the page label like
     "Page 2 of 3 (Layout)" and we cannot amend the label with the
     page name (Heiko)
   + Navigator does not automatically open and without it we just
     have the tooltip on the pages pane (Eyal)
     + could be on the status bar but also in the windows title (Eyal)
     + showing the page name is at least as important as showing the
       layer of the active object (Eyal)
   + if added to the statusbar we better extract the layer name into
     an extra section and add the page name to the current
     page number scheme (Heiko)
   + very long names page break the statusbar if shown in full length;
     should be restricted or ellipsis-ed on visualization (Eyal)
   + rather show as caption on the pages pane (Daniel)
     + sounds good (Eyal)
   => showing the name sounds reasonable but ideally not by default
     in the status bar

 * Add "Practice Presentation" menu item for single-monitor Presenter
   Console Practice
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171602
   + expert option PresenterScreen > Presenter > "Start Always" (Regina)
   + against a menu entry (Jan)
   + in general we may provide a simple UI vs. one with all expert
     features; Google Workspace could be an example (Daniel)
   + The slideshow menu only has 6 items right now, so a toggle for the
     Presenter Console does not clutter too much (Eyal)
   + in Window mode the expert option doesn't matter and the presenter
     console can be shown depending on the slide show settings (Heiko)
   + rehearse timings exist and the wanted function could be added
     with it into a rehearsal-focused submenu (Eyal)
   + Functionality of 'Rehearse Times' not very clear even when used (Eyal)
   => comment

 * LibreOffice Calc, autofilter, ordering data, no feedback on
   dropdown button
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171576
   + sorting happens only once and not on addition (Miguel)
   + unclear situation when data is added and in case of complex
     sort actions (Ady)
   + Excel shows the suggested arrow; on complex sort the arrows
     show up on each column (Heiko)
   + agree with Ady that respecting data changes is a prerequisite;
     as a quick and dirty solution we could show as non-directional
     marking like a vertical line/border (Eyal)
     + must not clash with the dot on filter
   + appreciate the feedback over potential inconsistency (John)
   => comment

 * MASTER DOCUMENT: option to enter document on read-only dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166903
   + no further input, unclear situation (edit does not open
     a document read-only)
   => needinfo

 * Remove the pop-up donation solicitation banner
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171674
   + too many requests of donations have an adverse effect, showing
     it on update is enough (John)
   + user is not in control anymore; solicitation every 30 days is
     arbitrary (Eyal)
   + why not wait a release cycle and assess the impact (Heiko)
   + suggest a floating banner at each module shown after updates (John)
   + sounds good to me but beyond my coding skills (Heiko)
   + expect consultation with the design team in case of decisions
     that affect UX (Eyal)
   => bug should be marked new (Eyal, John), rather Invalid (Heiko)

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