[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Mar-25

Present: Wodsfort, Martin, Sven, John, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Ady, Jan, Julien, Mike, Mihai

Tickets/Topics

 * Pointless confirmation dialog when deleting sheet
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170865
   + undo does not restore references to sheets (Heiko)
   + undo is unsafe anyway (Ady)
   + fix the REF# issue and try to allow undo (Jan)
   + agree with the fix; meanwhile better message sounds good (Eyal)
   + remove the dialog and introduce a modeless info such as infobar
     with undo/redo (Sven)
   + guess the broken reference is intentionally done to maintain
     performance (Heiko)
   + "[ ] Don't show again" should work for everyone (Martin)
   + maybe we can keep the "false" name instead of replacing it
     with REF (Martin)
     + indeed we can enter "=$shet1.a1" in a cell (Heiko)
   + improved label like "You can undo the operation but references
     are lost." or "Deleting sheets might loose references. Do you
     want to continue?" (Heiko)
   + "if you happen to delete a worksheet and there happens to be
     references dependent on that worksheet, those references will
     be lost with no possibility to recover them" (Ady)
   + users don't know about references and cannot handle the
     information (Sven)
   + "Deleting the sheet will destroy references" (Martin)
   => do so

 * Color variants of the same template table styles seems superfluous
   when being able to edit styles
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170867
   + some changes are required for the colored variants such as
     background, foreground, border, etc. (Eyal)
   + inheritance could be an idea to point out the possibility (Heiko)
   + using color schemes could be an option (Eyal)
     + we can use the palette but in fact the changed theme is ignored
       => bug
   => change the topic into making it a hierarchical relation

 * Consider replacing "Master Password" by "Primary Password"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159602
   + don't do; the dislike for people being masters of other people
     does not mean we should erase the word "Master" from the
     language (Eyal, Mihai, John, Martin)
   + totally against (Julien, Mike)
   + rather than "Primary" we should use "Main Password" (Heiko)
   + changing makes sense (Jan)
   => majority rejects the idea, WF

 * Add an option to disable "typing replaces selected (highlighted) text"
   (it's not overtype mode!) like in MS Word
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169913
   + prototype in MS Word is an indication for the need (Eyal)
   + notebook with touchpad leads to mistakenly selecting (Eyal)
   + agree with the request (Jan, Martin)
   + keep the default like today (Martin)
   => do it

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