[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Feb-25

Present: Martin, Suni, Eyal, John, Bogdan, Andreas, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Jan, Telesto, Mateusz, Ady, Regina


Tickets/Topics


 * Font dropdown should reopen at last selected font instead of top of list
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170780
   + recent on top has a purpose (Stuart)
   + clean solution would be to offer controls that actually allow the user
     to control different ways of accessing fonts (Jan)
   + agree with the use case and proposal to not sort recently used typefaces
     on top (Telesto)
   + we should keep the recent typefaces as duplicates in the list and focus
     the current active from the running list rather than the recently;
     scrolling to the top is much easier than down and finding the right
     position (Eyal)
     + we do have duplicate entries (Martin)
   + another solution would be to preview the font on hover (Martin)
   + many enhancements for typeface selection like to limit the list to items
     that match the typed name "schrift" (Eyal)
   + alternative #1: optional switch via expert option (Heiko)
     + not much flexibility; but could be added as UNO command later
     + sounds reasonable (Martin, Eyal)
     + default: keep the current state, also because applying the same font
       repeatedly is more common (Heiko)
     + default: change because styles should offer the font switch (Eyal)
   + alternative #2: checkbox to either sort recent on top or not
     + occupies screen real estate; adds always complexity, is difficult to
       implement
   + alternative #3: list item "Go to current font"
   + users typically don't change options (Martin)
   => recommend #1 with default to keep; and to show a preview on hover

 * Overwriting a proper subsequence of sequence of styled characters uses
   preceding character style
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159399
   + text input continues with the previous formatting; selecting all
     keeps the formatting - which is inconsistent
   + continuation of formatting is done by design; it depends on the
     selection and whether the last character is included if input
     overwrites or keeps the format (Heiko)
   + would be better to make the overwrite behavior more consistent (Eyal)
   + likely a duplicate (Heiko)
   + appears to be different between Windows and Linux (Bogdan)
   => dig Bugzilla for and accept the issue

 * Writer Find and Replace All bold or italics with yellow highlight
   incorrectly resets font styles to regular
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170738
   + bibisected to a patch (Mateusz)
   + ordinary bug, expected behavior is how Replace behaves and to
     keep other formatting (Bogdan, Eyal)
   => comment

 * Calc Notebookbar doesn't have a sheet direction toggle button
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170773
   + probably not frequent enough that it "deserves" a place on the NB (Ady)
   + context menu of the sheet tab is sufficient (Regina)
   + Excel provides a "big red" button (Eyal)
   + commonly used even if once (Eyal)
   + against adding it as hidden by default but could live with it (Eyal)
   + new item should go under Layout (Eyal)
   + why is LTR/RTL default not defined by the locale (Martin)
     + it is, but users often change the direction (Eyal)
   => do so


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