[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Nov-13

Present: Sahil, Eyal, Martin, Vivek, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Regina, Tamaz

Tickets/Topics

 * Change buttons in AutoFilter dialogue to double-clickable buttons
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161513
   + double-click 'Show/Hide only the current item' to execute
   + against overriding default toggle button functions (Heiko)
   + okay'ing a show/hide change is not a frequent action (Heiko)
   + OP is suggesting a problematic solution for some workflow
     that is frustrating for them, let's ask OP about that
     on the bug - perhaps we can make other suggestions (Eyal)
   + no indication of double-click functionality, users will miss it
     a lot (Martin)
   + buttons are not obvious to be toggle; against overloading it with
     more functions (Sahil)
  => comment with suggestion to WF but NEEDINFO for the use case

 * Relationship between "Show expand/collapse buttons" and "Enable drill
   to details" options in pivot table is unclear
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165270
   + indentation *and* a disabled state (Stuart)
  => no objection

 * Change order and arrangement of fields in User Data tab
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169123
   + separate content into two sections and re-sort (Eyal)
   + first section labeled "Identification" with First/Middle/Last Name,
     Title/Position, Company
     + split Company from personal information (Martin)
     + disagree; would look orphanized and could be done if more
       fields are introduced (Eyal)
   + second section "Contact information" with Street, Zip/City,
     Country/Region, Telefon (Home/Work), Fax/Email
   + dislike the placement of two fields such as title/position or fax/email
     in one line
     + City/Zip in my region (Sahil)
     + not much benefit and afraid of awkward layout (Heiko)
     + labeling the right column could solve the problem too (Eyal)
   => doer decides

 * Change grid indicator from dot to plus
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120897
   + main grid is larger than the subdivision markers (Regina)
     + unequal grids are kind of uncomfortable (Stuart)
   + use a vertical/horizontal dash instead of pluses (Eyal)
     + not helpful to position an object (Regina)
   + zoomable plus symbol difficult to implement, therefore just change
     the grid indicator from dot to plus (Tamaz)
   + MS Word shows kind of checkered paper if gridlines are on (Heiko)
   + allow (expert) customization per variable that defines the
     leg's length of the plus; do not zoom at 1px but figure out some
     algorithm otherwise (Heiko)
   + allow users to increase the dot size (Sahil)
   + pluses at sd's intersections are much better (Martin)
   + make grids consistent across modules (Eyal)
  => consistent look and feel, zoom dependency, user customization

 * [Feature request] New UI for conditional formatting
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169060
   + some ideas in bug 165162 (Heiko)
     + against "allow only one condition per Add CF" (BDF, aka Martin)
   + new functions are better placed in a context menu (Heiko)
   + mockup - share as PNG and EPGZ (Pencil) (all)
   + define/refine requirements and check against mockup (Heiko)
  => comment


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