[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Nov-05

Present: Eyal, Jonathan, Mihai, Ted, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Eyal, Jan, Mike, Vladislav, fpy, bdf

Tickets/Topics

 * Adding user information to the settings dialog on the first launch
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168989
   + was removed for v3.3 (Stuart)
   + worried about the inflation (Eyal, Jan)
   + add some links to the config, bug 166884 comment 9 (Mike)
   + automatically detecting the username does sound good, maybe
     indicate the auto detection with a personal address (Eyal, Vladislav)
     + auto detection likely fails often due to system defaults (Heiko, Mihai)
     + users seeing "Lenovo T1", for example, as user name would be
       encouraged to change it; in favor of automatic insertion (Mihai)
     + privacy concerns regarding auto insertion of user data (Ted)
     + show an infobar with "Your name was detected as... Wanna use it?",
       similar issue as with the start-up dialog (Heiko)
     + show some info when a document is saved the first time and the user name
       has not been stored (Eyal)
   + deployment in organizations would include info by admin
   + last page with links could be "Would you like to configure more options?"
     closing the dialog and opening tools > options (Eyal, Heiko)
   => concerns about the automatic detection, no further extra tab but one
     to open tools > options

 * Shortcuts - Go to first or last sheet
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169047
   + Ctrl+PgUp/PgDown as well as Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab execute
     To Next/Previous Sheet (.uno:JumpToNextTable/.uno:JumpToPrevTable)
   + Ctrl+Home / Ctrl+End as known in slideshow mode (fpy)
     + .uno:GoToStart / To File Begin and Ctrl + End .uno:GoToEndOfData
       (of a range with data)
     + shift+ctrl+end marks the range of data and is well-known for users
   + no good alternative, nothing to say against to first/last sheet
     commands to allow customization (Heiko, Eyal, Ted)
   + scroll buttons are pointless (probably inspired by Excel) and could
     be replace by first/last sheet (Heiko)
     + but tabs have no alternative scrolling method (Eyal)
     + we may use the wheel on the tabs bar to scroll (Ted)
   => add commands, do not assign shortcuts by default

 * Improve UX for fo:text-align start and end paragraph alignment
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169035
   + reasonable request (Stuart)
   + with some extra info "Start (Left/Top)" for LTR
     + wrong as Start needs to be overridden by Left for RTL (Heiko)
   + low risk to break documents (Jonathan)
   + four questions: a) default for new documents/templates, b) labels
     for the items, and c) what to do with toolbar buttons (Jonathan)
     + a) yes (all)
     + b) Change Left/Top to "Force Left/Top" and move it to the end
          + show icons next to labels (Heiko)
          + improve preview (Jonathan)
            + simply showing an arrow might be mistaken as text flow (Eyal)
     + c) icons are rotated for vertical alignment (Jonathan)
         + same icon for start as left but with an arrow, hide
           left/right buttons (Heiko)
         + activate Start button if paragraph is Left (Jonathan)
           + against as it hinders the understanding of the concept (Heiko)
         + icon could be like this one 
https://github.com/eyalroz/bidimailui/blob/master/src/chrome/skin/classic/light/rtl-main-bar-24x24.png
         + me understands alignment rather as something pointing towards the
           edge, meaning an arrow from right to the left edge in case of left
           alignment (Heiko)
   => comment, encourage people to submit icon proposals

 * [Feature request] New UI for conditional formatting
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169060
   => postponed to next week

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